MDV Poll - Is Coldsnap good for Magic?

[Streetz]

Given the announcement Wizards made a month ago about the release of a new set that was the lost third set of Ice Age, and that would be T2 legal.... called ColdSnap... do you feel this is a good thing for Magic? Mind you it is ten years since the set was originally designed, it would have to go through the current development teams and that it will be released mid-2006.

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EDIT EDIT: The poll is up. Please vote and then discuss!

[Syphon]

It sounds very good, but flavour wise, it doesn't make sense. I know that Mirrodin was on another plane than Dominaria, as was Kamigawa and so is Ravnica, but how does going back to the Ice Age make sense?
It doesn't! Not to me, anyway.
I mean, it doesn't fit the continuum. The Ice Age was long gone when we last saw Dominaria, so now we go back so many sets? I don't like it...

To me, the flavour is everything, and the best flavour was of course the entire Phyrexia cycle. I'm ranting now, but you see my point, I hope.

[DeutschlandMagicSpiel]

the only reason they're probably posting it now is because the idea has been nagging at someone all this time. It's chance to be made has come and gone, and it should just die like everyone thought it had.

[Tekkactus]

The blocks don't go in chronological order, Syphon. This would just take place in between Alliances and Homelands.

[Einsteinmonkey]

I like Coldsnap...I don't see what would be wrong with it.

[Death_By_Beebles]

It sounds very good, but flavour wise, it doesn't make sense. I know that Mirrodin was on another plane than Dominaria, as was Kamigawa and so is Ravnica, but how does going back to the Ice Age make sense?
It doesn't! Not to me, anyway.
I mean, it doesn't fit the continuum. The Ice Age was long gone when we last saw Dominaria, so now we go back so many sets? I don't like it...

To me, the flavour is everything, and the best flavour was of course the entire Phyrexia cycle. I'm ranting now, but you see my point, I hope.

No, I don't see your point. Magic flavor is designed as a giant multiverse, with different planes comprising it. Visiting a plane again is just another way of tying in old flavor to the new. It makes perfect sense to me. I don't see the magic multiverse as a continuum, and I don't think you can. The Phyrexian storyline can be seen as a continuum, and the two blocks of Otaria as a continuum, but that's really about it. Each block is its own entity in flavor, and I think that revisting that flavor is a definite good thing.

Plus, it gives us more cards to work with in Standard!

[Tynion]

In the early days, we also had an item like this happen to us. Do you want to know how it worked out?

GREAT!

We had a set called Chronicals tossed into our mix, where we were playing Ice Age and Mirage block type 2 (standard). It was great. It was like an expansion of the basic set, only with effect cards that didn't suck. They printed a bunch of multi-color legends from Legends, older stuff from Antiuities and Arabian Knights, and brought some salt and pepper for the flavoring. Heck, Chronicals had Divine Offering (Prison), Ernham Djinn, Land Tax (Ernie-geddon), and other used cards that would not have ever been useful in non-standard envirnments.

I do think that they could have just brought about a new Ice Age and did it that way, but as a kind of third block in the format, because Coldsnap will be lonely. I would like to see how many cards would mesh with the Outpost, and how many artifacts were dug up to be recycled by a Browse Deck *sigh*.

I miss my Browse Deck!

Chris Newton

[UnknownKnowned]

i LOVEEDDD ice age
i think its amazing what they are donig with coldsnap
keep on keeping on WTC

:coffee:

[Syphon]

But how the hell can the set design tie in with T2 AND the old Ice Age and Homelands? Or am I mistaken and is it Ice Age and Alliances? I think the latter.
Anyway, here's my point:
I mean, what are they going to do? Put hybrid multicolour snow-covered cards in there?
I am highly sceptic, but then again, I was just a wee lad when Ice Age was here. So I have no idea, really.
I'll go sit in the corner quietly now...

[willsuyuu]

I have not played a Ice Age, but look forward to it because I was interested for some time.
I say very much and consider WtC to have considered.

[ConManXVII]

its kind of weird to me that they're going to allow coldsnap in type two tourney play but not the other ice age block sets. also when you buy precon decks for it they will come with reprints of old ice age cards. very odd indeed but im still looking forward to it. ice age was awesome

[ConManXVII]

wouldnt it be great if they brought back some of the older cards with this set to put them back into type two play.

type two necropotence!!! HELLZ YEAH THAT WOULD BE GREAT

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[Tynion]

No, you dont understand, you dont want Necro again.

The whole snow-covered land thing was a huge disappointment. It probably would have been better had they actually released the third set that included them as useful.

The Ice Age Block should have been:

Ice Age, Alliances, Cold Snap (not crummy, Yu-gi-oh level Homelands)

Actually.. I would like to start a petition. I want to make a cut. I want to cut Homelands, and let it actually be considered an expansion set to Yu-gi-oh. Although, once that happens, we should assert our authority, and annex Autumn Willon, Baron Sengir, Eron the Relentless, and Serrated Arrows back into Magic (Memory Lapse was re-printed in a new set so its still safe, and Yu-gi-oh could use an actual good card in its ranks).

Mark my words! They most likely had the answer to the Necro days in Coldsnap. That would be awesomely funny *has a seizure thinking about those old days*

Chris

[Streetz]

I don't think Wizards really had a concept on how to nuke a card. That said, there would have been no answer to Necro in ColdSnap.

And, I DO NOT want Necro back either.