5CB #13 (Sort of a special round)

[Mogg]

The title says "Sort of a special round", and that's what this is. Here's the plan. Black Lotus, a card that is arguably more relevant in XCB than any other when its legal has shifted somewhat irregularly between banned and legal. Now that shift will be regular. For regular rounds, Black Lotus will be legal for two weeks at a time, after which will follow two rounds where it's banned. The cycle then repeats. Basically, I don't feel like banning or unbanning Black Lotus is special enough to make for a "special round", but I would like to see rounds with and without it. I'll try to be clear, though, what kind of week we're in.

So, in case you didn't read that last paragraph, just know that Black Lotus is legal this week.

Additions to the banned list from last week are Anvil of Bogardan, Mishra's Workshop, Nether Spirit, Nevinyrral's Disk and Sheltered Valley.

PM me your decks by Saturday, March 10th at 9:00 pm PST.

The cards in my decklist will begin with the letters B, B, B, G and P.

Sorry for the delay in starting this round; I'm just really bad at making decks for lotus rounds.

Stuff
To Play
Rules
These are the rules for Vanishing 5 Card Blind:
Your deck is composed of 5 cards which all start in your hand.
Your library contains 0 cards and you don’t have a sideboard.
Random effects always go in your opponent's favor.
You can see your opponent's hand.
You don't lose as a result of not being able to draw a card.
You play each opponent twice; once going first and once going second.
For each win, you score 3 points.
For each draw, you score 1 point.
For each loss, you score 0 points.

Further, you may not submit a deck that can:
1. Win before the opponent's first main phase.
2. Force an opponent to lose more than one card from his hand per turn.
3. Generate infinite (an arbitrarily large amount of) mana on the first turn of the game.

Other than the aforementioned, everything is handled exactly like a real game of Magic.

To play, simply send me a PM with your list of five cards.

After each round, cards in the winning deck and any card in at least 1/3 of the decks played that round will be banned in future rounds.
Banned List
All Ante cards
All cards not available on Gatherer/Autocard
All cards exclusively from Unglued or Unhinged

All
Anvil of Bogardan
Blackmail
Channel
Conjurer's Bauble
Crystal Vein
Dark Ritual
Darksteel Colossus
Duress
Echoing Truth
Eladamri’s Vineyard
Empty the Warrens
Feldon’s Cane
Foil
Force of Will
Form of the Dragon
Ghost Quarter
Illusionary Mask
Innocent Blood
Isamaru, Hound of Konda
Karakas
Kjeldoran Outpost
Leyline of Singularity
Mana Crypt
Maze of Ith
Meddling Mage
Mesmeric Fiend
Misdirection
Mishra’s Workshop
Nether Spirit
Nevinyrral’s Disk
Nezumi Shortfang
Phyrexian Dreadnought
Rift Bolt
Rishadan Port
Rite of Flame
Powder Keg
Savannah Lions
Serra Avatar
Sheltered Valley
Show and Tell
Sneak Attack
Soldevi Digger
Strip Mine
The Rack
Undiscovered Paradise
Voice of All
Voidstone Gargoyle
Wasteland
Windborn Muse
Yavimaya Hollow
By Color
White
Isamaru, Hound of Konda
Savannah Lions
Serra Avatar
Voice of All
Voidstone Gargoyle
Windborn Muse
Blue
Echoing Truth
Foil
Force of Will
Leyline of Singularity
Misdirection
Show and Tell
Black
Blackmail
Dark Ritual
Duress
Innocent Blood
Mesmeric Fiend
Nether Spirit
Nezumi Shortfang
Red
Empty the Warrens
Form of the Dragon
Rift Bolt
Rite of Flame
Sneak Attack
Green
Channel
Eladamri’s Vineyard
Multi-Color
Meddling Mage
Artifact
Anvil of Bogardan
Conjurer's Bauble
Darksteel Colossus
Feldon’s Cane
Illusionary Mask
Nevinyrral’s Disk
Mana Crypt
Phyrexian Dreadnought
Powder Keg
Soldevi Digger
The Rack
Land
Crystal Vein
Ghost Quarter
Karakas
Kjeldoran Outpost
Mishra’s Workshop
Rishadan Port
Sheltered Valley
Strip Mine
Undiscovered Paradise
Wasteland
Yavimaya Hollow
*Moxes and certain lands will never be banned in regular rounds (A land falls into this category if its only abilities are mana abilities, it can only make up to three colors of mana and it can’t make more than one mana on turn one).
**Cards will not be added to the banned list when they are used in a Block format special round.
Results
Winning Decks
- Round #1 [ Mogg ] Channel + Darksteel Colossus + Force of Will + Hickory Woodlot + Misdirection

- Round #1 [ Pingele_Pats ] Force of Will + Echoing Truth + Undiscovered Paradise + Yavimaya Hollow + Nezumi Shortfang

- Round #2 [ RichardMNixon ] Karakas + Leyline of Singularity + Isamaru, Hound of Konda + Savannah Lions + Mox Pearl

- Round #3 [ Pingele_Pats ] Snow-Covered Island + Mana Crypt + Show and Tell + Form of the Dragon + Feldon’s Cane

- Round #4 [ Cashew ] Mox Ruby + Mox Jet + Dark Ritual + Rift Bolt + Empty the Warrens

- Round #5 [ Mogg ] Duress + Innocent Blood + Kjeldoran Outpost + Orzhov Basilica + Scrubland

- Round #6 [ Mogg ] (No moxes) Conjurer's Bauble + Crystal Vein + Illusionary Mask + Phyrexian Dreadnought + Rishadan Port

- Round #7 [ Mogg ] (No moxes) Rite of Flame + Rite of Flame + Serra Avatar + Sneak Attack + Snow-Covered Mountain

- Round #8 [ Mogg ] Foil + Fountain of Cho + Snow-Covered Island + Windborn Muse + Voice of All

- Round #9 [ Mogg ] (Six mana-producing cards unbanned) Black Lotus + City of Traitors + Powder Keg + Soldevi Digger + Voidstone Gargoyle

- Round #10 [ Pingele_Pats ] (Time Spiral Block) Porphyry Nodes + Durkwood Baloth + Durkwood Baloth + Feldon's Cane + Gemstone Mine

- Round #11 [ Shteev ] (Ravnica Block) Island + Simic Growth Chamber + Mark of Eviction + Aquastrand Spider + Vedalken Plotter

- Round #12 [ Mogg ] (Twenty-four cards unbanned) Anvil of Bogardan + Mishra’s Workshop + Nether Spirit + Nevinyrral’s Disk + Sheltered Valley
Monthly Results
March Results
1. Mogg 80% (24/30)
2. Cashew 50% (15/30)
2. Death_By_Beebles 50% (15/30)
2. SenorClown 50% (15/30)
5. Halinn 40% (12/30)
6. Niv-Mizzet_Rulez! 30% (9/30)
February Results
1. Pingele_Pats 80% (62/78)
2. SenorClown 59% (64/108)
3. Mogg 56% (60/108)
4. Cashew 40% (29/72)
5. Halinn 37% (40/108)
6. Niv-Mizzet_Rulez! 28% (30/108)
7. Death_By_Beebles 17% (18/108)
January Results
1. Mogg 85% (132/156)
2. Rayden_Marz 67% (32/48)
3. guest1234 64% (54/84)
4. Cashew 63% (98/156)
5. SenorClown 46% (72/156)
6. Death_By_Beebles 44% (68/156)
7. Halinn 34% (53/156)
8. Niv-Mizzet_Rulez! 31% (48/156)
9. DarkRequiem 13% (15/120)
*A person can only be the winner of a month if that person plays in at least two of that month’s rounds.
Other
XCB Threads
3CB
Current
Round 1 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5335)
Round 2 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5430)
Round 3 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5508)
Round 4 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5664)
Round 5 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5761)
Round 6 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5902)
Round 7 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=6294)
Round 8 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=7024)
Round 9 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=7773)
The Early Rounds
Round 1 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=1796)
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Round 4 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=2420)
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Round 6 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=2913)
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Round 8 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=3744)
Round 9 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=4292)
Round 10 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=4640)
Round 11 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=4919)
Round 12 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5071)
4CB
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Round 6 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=7540)
5CB
Round 1 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5173)
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Round 10 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5994)
Round 11 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=6178)
Round 12
[url=http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=7548]Round 13 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=6830)
Articles
Part 1 (http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=5310)
Part 2 (http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=5700)
Part 3 (http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=7544)

[Niv-Mizzet_Rulez!]

i'm in.

[Mogg]

Players (*= decklist received):
Mogg*
Halinn*
SenorClown*
Niv-Mizzet_Rulez*
Death_By_Beebles*
Pingele_Pats

[Death_By_Beebles]

I'm in.

[Mogg]

*bump*

Just a reminder that decklists are due tomorrow.

[Pingele_Pats]

I'm in.

[Pingele_Pats]

Mogg, I already gave you my deck with AIM few days ago. (forgotthedeck? ;) :p)

[Mogg]

Sorry, forgot about that. I'll have the results up within the hour.

[Mogg]

Ok, here they are. The results!

#1 - Mogg
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Blood Moon
Glowrider
Preacher

#2 - Halinn
Tropical Island
Daze
Thallid
Disrupting Shoal
Evermind

#3 - Niv-Mizzet_Rulez!
Chalice of the Void
Aether Vial
Simic Sky Swallower
Mirrodin's Core
Souls of the Faultless

#4 - SenorClown
Plains
Mishra's Factory
The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
Seal of Cleansing
Pithing Needle

#5 - Death_By_Beebles
City of Traitors
Sol Ring
Phyrexian Processor
Trinisphere
Ark of Blight

#6 – Pingele_Pats
Black Lotus
Swamp
Shrouded Lore
Earthcraft
Squirrel Nest

X| 1 2 3 4| 5 6 Total
1| X 3 3 0| 3 0 9
2| 3 X 6 6| 0 3 18
3| 3 0 X 0| 0 3 6
4| 6 0 6 X| 1 3 16
5| 3 6 6 4| X 3 22
6| 6 3 3 3| 3 X 18

Congrats to DBB for his first 5CB win! There's a very nice mix of overwhelming creature power and two utility spells in that deck.

Also, a note on Halinn's deck. It really says something about the power of Thallid-Daze when he did so well with 2 of his cards being unplayable in many matchups.

Oh, and SenorClown actually figured out all the cards in my deck and specifically metagamed against it. :)

The next round will go up later today or tomorrow.

[Death_By_Beebles]

Wow, it's nice to finally win :)

[SenorClown]

Me (Plains, Factory, Tabernacle, Seal, Needle) vs. Pingele_Pats (Lotus, Swamp, Shrouded Lore, Earthcraft, Squirrel Nest)
Currently: 3-3
Should be: 6-0

Tabernacle is what ruins him (I actually put it there expecting Hunting Pack). Even if he makes infinite tokens, during his upkeep, he can only keep one. Then I Pith or Seal Squirrel Nest, and at that point Mishra's Factory can definitely beat a Squirrel token.

vs. Halinn (Trop, Daze, Thallid, Disrupting Shoal, Evermind)
Currently: 0-6
Should be: 6-0
I can get Pithing Needle down on his Thallid by waiting to play it until turn 2, when I have Plains and Mishra's Factory out. Then, Factory races better than Thallid.


#1 Mogg (Lotus, Lotus, Moon, Glow, Preacher) vs. Pingele_Pats (Lotus, Swamp, Shrouded Lore, Earthcraft, Squirrel Nest)
Currently: 0-6
Should be: 3-3

When Mogg is on the play, he can drop Glowrider, thus making it impossible for Pingele to combo out, since Craft + Squirrel Nest cost a total of 4GGG, which he falls short of.

#2 Halinn (Trop, Daze, Thallid, Disrupting Shoal, Evermind) vs. #3 Niv-Mizzet_Rulez! (Chalice, Core, Vial, SSS, Souls)
Current: 6-0
Should be: 3-3

This one's a long one. With NMR! on the play:

N: Core, Vial.
H: Trop, Thallid.
N: 1 counter.
H: 1 counter, 19-20.
N: 2 counters.
H: 2 counters, 18-20.
N: 3 counters.
H: 3 counters, make a sap, 17-20.
N: 4 counters.
H: 1 counter, 15-20.
N: 5 counters.
H: 2 counters, 13-20.
N: 6 counters.
H: 3 counters, make a sap, 11-20.
N: 7 counters, drop SSS.
H: 1 counter.
N: Swing with SSS. 11-14.
H: 2 counters. 8-14
N: 8-8.
H: 3 counters, make a sap, 5-8.
N: 5-2.
H: 2-2.
N: Win.

Note that that is only when NMR is on the play. On the draw, he loses by that same thin margin.

This makes it:

X| 1 2 3 4| 5 6 Total
1| X 3 3 0| 3 3 12
2| 3 X 3 0| 0 3 9
3| 3 3 X 0| 0 3 9
4| 6 6 6 X| 1 6 25
5| 3 6 6 4| X 3 22
6| 3 3 3 0| 3 X 9


Sorry, guys!

[Death_By_Beebles]

*sigh*

[SenorClown]

Sorry, man. Good luck next time.

[Mogg]

Alright, I agree with some, but not all of your corrections.

SenorClown vs. Pingele_Pats
Still 3-3.
Let's say he makes 100 tokens, ok? You play tabernacle. On his turn he taps 50 saprolings and taps then untaps his Swamp 50 times for mana, letting him pay the upkeep for the remaining 50 saprolings.

SenorClown vs. Halinn
I somehow forgot that making the tokens was an activated ability. 6-0 for SenorClown.

Mogg vs. Pingele_Pats
Still 0-6, explanation in the spoiler
M: Glowrider, Preacher
P: Swamp, Black Lotus
M: attack
P: 17, sacrfice lotus and tap Swamp, play Squirrel Nest
M: attack
P: 14
M: attack with Glowrider (P_P makes a token to block, but I take it with Preacher)
P: 12, token
M: I can't attack with Glowrider now because then P_P could kill it and get his combo going. Attack with saproling.
P: 11, 2 tokens
M: attack
P: 10, 3 tokens
M: attack
P: 9, 4 tokens
M: attack
P: 8, 5 tokens
M: attack
P: 7, 6 tokens
M: attack
P: 6, 7 tokens
M: attack
P: 5, 8 tokens
M: attack
P: 4, attack for 8
M: 12, attack
P: 3, attack for 9
M: 3, attack
P: 2, attack for 10
M: dead

Halinn vs. NMR!
Agree, not sure what I was thinking here.

X| 1 2 3 4| 5 6 Total
1| X 3 3 0| 3 0 9
2| 3 X 3 0| 0 3 9
3| 3 3 X 0| 0 3 9
4| 6 6 6 X| 1 3 22
5| 3 6 6 4| X 3 22
6| 6 3 3 3| 3 X 18

DBB and SenorClown both win!

[Pingele_Pats]

I'm very amused by reading the matchups :D
Congratz both!

[Niv-Mizzet_Rulez!]

#2 Halinn (Trop, Daze, Thallid, Disrupting Shoal, Evermind) vs. #3 Niv-Mizzet_Rulez! (Chalice, Core, Vial, SSS, Souls)
Current: 6-0
Should be: 3-3

This one's a long one. With NMR! on the play:

N: Core, Vial.
H: Trop, Thallid.
N: 1 counter.
H: 1 counter, 19-20.
N: 2 counters.
H: 2 counters, 18-20.
N: 3 counters.
H: 3 counters, make a sap, 17-20.
N: 4 counters.
H: 1 counter, 15-20.
N: 5 counters.
H: 2 counters, 13-20.
N: 6 counters.
H: 3 counters, make a sap, 11-20.
N: 7 counters, drop SSS.
H: 1 counter.
N: Swing with SSS. 11-14.
H: 2 counters. 8-14
N: 8-8.
H: 3 counters, make a sap, 5-8.
N: 5-2.
H: 2-2.
N: Win.

Note that that is only when NMR is on the play. On the draw, he loses by that same thin margin.


You forget i drop souls to block when viel has 3 counters on it.

Also wouldn't needle be able to stop the creatrue arrmy if he names swamp or earthcraft?

[Mogg]

It doesn't matter if you drop wall or not, you win that game regardless, and you still lose to Daze going second. In regards to P_P's deck, he will get an arbitrarily large amount of squirrels on his turn (before SenorClown can play Pithing Needle). To get an arbitrarily large amount of creatures on his first turn, P_P plays Black Lotus and sacrifices it for BBB. He uses B to play Shrouded Lore and get back Black Lotus. He plays Black Lotus and sacrifices it for GGG. He uses GGB to play Squirrel Nest on his Swamp. He uses GB to play Earthcraft. Now he can make as many squirrels as he wants. Not sure if I had to explain that, but I didn't understand that he got his combo going on turn 1 the first time I saw it, so I thought maybe that was part of the confusion.

On a sidenote, Round 14 will go up today after I get back from piano (maybe early tomorrow morning for those of you east of California).