5CB #12 (A Day of Unbanning)

[Mogg]

Congrats to Shteev for winning Round 11!

Now, a couple of changes to 5CB. I wanted to separate the banned list from those first twelve rounds of 3CB from the current 5CB banned list. The following twenty-four cards are unbanned. Enjoy.

Unbanned Cards
Mishra’s Factory
Swords to Plowshares
Ancient Spring
Maze of Ith
Scalding Tongs
Ancient Tomb
Aether Vial
Faceless Butcher
Mishra’s Workshop
Steel Golem
Trinisphere
Lion’s Eye Diamond
Nether Spirit
Soldevi Sentry
Blinkmoth Nexus
Rogue Elephant
City of Traitors
Isochron Scepter
Lightning Helix
Flame Fusillade
Gemstone Mine
Durkwood Baloth
Chain of Vapor
Keldon Halberdier

Decklists are due by 9:00 pm PST on Friday, March 2nd.

The cards in my deck start with letters A, M, N, N and S.

Other Stuff
Rules
These are the rules for Vanishing 5 Card Blind:
Your deck is composed of 5 cards which all start in your hand.
Your library contains 0 cards and you don’t have a sideboard.
Random effects always go in your opponent's favor.
You can see your opponent's hand.
You don't lose as a result of not being able to draw a card.
You play each opponent twice; once going first and once going second.
For each win, you score 3 points.
For each draw, you score 1 point.
For each loss, you score 0 points.

Further, you may not submit a deck that can:
1. Win before the opponent's first main phase.
2. Force an opponent to lose more than one card from his hand per turn.
3. Generate infinite (an arbitrarily large amount of) mana on the first turn of the game.

Other than the aforementioned, everything is handled exactly like a real game of Magic.

To play, simply send me a PM with your list of five cards.

After each round, cards in the winning deck and any card in at least 1/3 of the decks played that round will be banned in future rounds.
Winning Decks
- Round #1 [ Mogg ] Channel + Darksteel Colossus + Force of Will + Hickory Woodlot + Misdirection

- Round #1 [ Pingele_Pats ] Force of Will + Echoing Truth + Undiscovered Paradise + Yavimaya Hollow + Nezumi Shortfang

- Round #2 [ RichardMNixon ] Karakas + Leyline of Singularity + Isamaru, Hound of Konda + Savannah Lions + Mox Pearl

- Round #3 [ Pingele_Pats ] Snow-Covered Island + Mana Crypt + Show and Tell + Form of the Dragon + Feldon’s Cane

- Round #4 [ Cashew ] Mox Ruby + Mox Jet + Dark Ritual + Rift Bolt + Empty the Warrens

- Round #5 [ Mogg ] Duress + Innocent Blood + Kjeldoran Outpost + Orzhov Basilica + Scrubland

- Round #6 [ Mogg ] (No moxes) Conjurer's Bauble + Crystal Vein + Illusionary Mask + Phyrexian Dreadnought + Rishadan Port

- Round #7 [ Mogg ] (No moxes) Rite of Flame + Rite of Flame + Serra Avatar + Sneak Attack + Snow-Covered Mountain

- Round #8 [ Mogg ] Foil + Fountain of Cho + Snow-Covered Island + Windborn Muse + Voice of All

-Round #9 [ Mogg ] (Six mana-producing cards unbanned) Black Lotus + City of Traitors + Powder Keg + Soldevi Digger + Voidstone Gargoyle

-Round #10 [ Pingele_Pats ] (Time Spiral Block) Porphyry Nodes + Durkwood Baloth + Durkwood Baloth + Feldon's Cane + Gemstone Mine

-Round #11 [ Shteev ] (Ravnica Block) Island + Simic Growth Chamber + Mark of Eviction + Aquastrand Spider + Vedalken Plotter
Banned List
All Ante cards
All cards not available on Gatherer/Autocard
All cards exclusively from Unglued or Unhinged

All
Black Lotus
Blackmail
Channel
Conjurer's Bauble
Crystal Vein
Dark Ritual
Darksteel Colossus
Duress
Echoing Truth
Eladamri’s Vineyard
Empty the Warrens
Feldon’s Cane
Foil
Force of Will
Form of the Dragon
Ghost Quarter
Illusionary Mask
Innocent Blood
Isamaru, Hound of Konda
Karakas
Kjeldoran Outpost
Leyline of Singularity
Mana Crypt
Maze of Ith
Meddling Mage
Mesmeric Fiend
Misdirection
Nezumi Shortfang
Phyrexian Dreadnought
Powder Keg
Rift Bolt
Rishadan Port
Rite of Flame
Savannah Lions
Serra Avatar
Show and Tell
Soldevi Digger
Sneak Attack
Strip Mine
The Rack
Undiscovered Paradise
Voice of All
Voidstone Gargoyle
[card]Wasteland
Windborn Muse
Yavimaya Hollow
By Color
White
Isamaru, Hound of Konda
Savannah Lions
Serra Avatar
Voice of All
Voidstone Gargoyle
Windborn Muse
Blue
Echoing Truth
Foil
Force of Will
Leyline of Singularity
Misdirection
Show and Tell
Black
Blackmail
Dark Ritual
Duress
Innocent Blood
Mesmeric Fiend
Nezumi Shortfang
Red
Empty the Warrens
Form of the Dragon
Rift Bolt
Rite of Flame
Sneak Attack
Green
Channel
Eladamri’s Vineyard
Multi-Color
Meddling Mage
Artifact
Black Lotus
Conjurer's Bauble
Darksteel Colossus
Feldon’s Cane
Illusionary Mask
Mana Crypt
Phyrexian Dreadnought
Powder Keg
Soldevi Digger
The Rack
Land
Crystal Vein
Ghost Quarter
Karakas
Kjeldoran Outpost
Rishadan Port
Strip Mine
Undiscovered Paradise
[card]Wasteland
Yavimaya Hollow
*Moxes and certain lands will never be banned in regular rounds (A land falls into this category if its only abilities are mana abilities, it can only make up to three colors of mana and it can’t make more than one mana on turn one).
**Cards will not be added to the banned list when they are used in a Block format special round.
Other XCB Threads
3CB
The Trial Rounds
Round 1 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=1796)
Rounds 2 and 3 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=2084)
Round 4 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=2420)
Round 5 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=2619)
Round 6 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=2913)
Round 7 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=3330)
Round 8 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=3744)
Round 9 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=4292)
Round 10 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=4640)
Round 11 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=4919)
Round 12 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5071)
Current
Round 1 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5335)
Round 2 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5430)
Round 3 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5508)
Round 4 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5664)
Round 5 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5761)
Round 6 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5902)
Round 7 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=6294)
4CB
Round 1 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5596)
Round 2 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5760)
Round 3 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5901)
Round 4 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=6294)
5CB
Round 1 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5173)
Round 2 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5280)
Round 3 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5327)
Round 4 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5511)
Round 5 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5598)
Round 6 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5683)
Round 7 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5748)
Round 8 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5828)
Round 9 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5919)
Round 10 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5994)
Round 11 (http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=6178)
Monthly Results
February Results
1. Pingele_Pats 80% (62/78)
2. SenorClown 59% (64/108)
3. Mogg 56% (60/108)
4. Cashew 40% (29/72)
5. Halinn 37% (40/108)
6. Niv-Mizzet_Rulez! 28% (30/108)
7. Death_By_Beebles 17% (18/108)
January Results
1. Mogg 85% (132/156)
2. Rayden_Marz 67% (32/48)
3. guest1234 64% (54/84)
4. Cashew 63% (98/156)
5. SenorClown 46% (72/156)
6. Death_By_Beebles 44% (68/156)
7. Halinn 34% (53/156)
8. Niv-Mizzet_Rulez! 31% (48/156)
9. DarkRequiem 13% (15/120)
*A person can only be the winner of a month if that person plays in at least two of that month’s rounds.
Articles
Part 1 (http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=5310)
Part 2 (http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=5700)
Part 3 (http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=7544)

[Niv-Mizzet_Rulez!]

I'm in.

[Mogg]

SenorClown pointed out to me yesterday that Voidstone Gargoyle, Soldevi Digger and Powder Keg should have been on the banned list. They are now; don't use them.

Current list of players:
Mogg*
SenorClown*
Niv-Mizzet_Rulez!*
Halinn*
Cashew*
Death_By_Beebles

[Niv-Mizzet_Rulez!]

My really crappy deck has been sent.

[shteev]

Honestly can't say if I'll have the time to submit a deck this week. If you get one from me, that means I have :)

[Mogg]

So, this round was posted in February, but the scoring will occur in March. I'd just like to know from you guys if this round should count for February or for March.

[Niv-Mizzet_Rulez!]

I think it should be in march's scour. I think we need a new start. And i want to forget the shme of my past decks.

[Death_By_Beebles]

I'm in.

[Mogg]

Here are the results. The next round will go up sometime tomorrow when I know what I'll be playing.

Anvil of Bogardan
Mishra's Workshop
Nether Spirit
Nevinyrral's disk
Sheltered Valley

#2 - Halinn
Tundra
City of Traitors
Kataki, War's Wage
Isochron Scepter
Lightning Helix

#3 - Cashew
Lion's Eye Diamond
Nether Spirit
Leyline of the Void
Roar of the Wurm
Boseiju, Who Shelters All

#4 - SenorClown
Mishra's Workshop
Metalworker
Voltaic Construct
Goblin Cannon
Trinisphere

#5 - Niv-Mizzet_Rulez!
Squee, Goblin Nabob
Cursed Scroll
City of Traitors
Mox Ruby
Trinisphere

#6 - Death_By_Beebles
Smokestack
Mishra's Workshop
Chalice of the Void
Goblin Welder
Mox Ruby

X|| 1 2 3 4| 5 6 Total
1|| X 6 0 6| 6 6 24
2|| 0 X 3 3| 6 0 12
3|| 6 3 X 0| 3 3 15
4|| 0 3 6 X| 6 6 21
5|| 0 0 3 0| X 3 6
6|| 0 6 0 0| 6 X 12

[SenorClown]

Huh?

4. (Workshop-Metalworker-Construct-Cannon-3sphere)
vs.

5. (City-Ruby-Scroll-Squee-3sphere)
Current: 3-3
Should be: 6-0

Even if he's on the play, he will have two cards in hand on his second turn (when I have Metalworker), and so the rule of random effects will slide in my favor and he will not be able to Scroll Metalworker.

vs. 6. (Workshop-Ruby-Welder-Stax-Chalice)
Current: 3-3
Should be: 6-0

When he's on the play, he drops Smokestack first. Then, on my turn, I play Worker. Even if he puts a counter on, on my turn I simply sacrifice Workshop and combo out.


3. (LED-Boseiju-Spirit-Roar-Void)
vs.
5. (City-Ruby-Scroll-Squee-3sphere)
Current: 3-3
Should be: 0-6

Boseiju comes into play tapped. When 5 is on the play, he drops 3sphere first and shuts 3 down. When 3 is on the play, he begins by pitching Spirit to LED and burning for 3. Then, 5 drops Cursed Scroll. Then, 3 gets Nether Spirit back. 5 plays Squee and blocks when the Spirit attacks, but Squee is removed. From here on out, 5 can race faster than 3 because 3 was forced to burn for 3 damage at the beginning of the game.


That would make it:

X|| 1 2 3 4| 5 6 Total
1|| X 6 0 6| 6 6 24
2|| 0 X 3 3| 6 0 12
3|| 6 3 X 0| 0 3 12
4|| 0 3 6 X| 6 6 21
5|| 0 0 6 0| X 3 9
6|| 0 6 0 0| 6 X 12

[Halinn]

3. (LED-Boseiju-Spirit-Roar-Void)
vs.
5. (City-Ruby-Scroll-Squee-3sphere)
Current: 3-3
Should be: 0-6

Boseiju comes into play tapped. When 5 is on the play, he drops 3sphere first and shuts 3 down. When 3 is on the play, he begins by pitching Spirit to LED and burning for 3. Then, 5 drops Cursed Scroll. Then, 3 gets Nether Spirit back. 5 plays Squee and blocks when the Spirit attacks, but Squee is removed. From here on out, 5 can race faster than 3 because 3 was forced to burn for 3 damage at the beginning of the game.


Only thing that's hit by 3sphere is the LED. Play that out turn one, then use it turn 2 to get spirit and roar.

[Niv-Mizzet_Rulez!]

I think we need a rule change. This is what it is now.
3. Generate infinite (an arbitrarily large amount of) mana on the first turn of the game.

I think it should be changed to.
3. Generate infinite (an arbitrarily large amount of) mana.

[Mogg]

@SenorClown
For the reaons that Halinn has given, I haven't changed the 3 vs. 5 games. I changed the other two.

@Niv-Mizzet
I see no reason to change the rule. The infinite-mana decks I've seen are incredibly easy to disrupt. All I had to do to was play was an Anvil of Bogardan. He only discarded one card of his choice and the deck couldn't combo. I'm not bashing the deck here, just trying to point out that infinite mana combos do tend to be easy to disrupt.

The only reason the rule exits for turn one is that the other player really has no chance to respond going second. I'm not even sure the rule belongs there for non-lotus rounds.

As a sidenote, remember that there are other ways to win on turn two besides getting infinite mana. I haven't heard any complaint against those (nor do I want to).

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