View Full Version : Celixia MAFIA game one : Townies win on Day 6 ... 1/22/06
Streetz
11-20-2005, 08:11 PM
[size=16]In the peaceful world of CELIXIA, a dark presence is about to make itself known in a small town in the Toch’Nar territory called Lo-nogt. Dangerous estos shapeshifters have taken over several bodies in the town with complete knowledge of the bodies they took over. Their mission from the Estos Hive is to kill the rest of the town members.
This is a plan from the Estos Hive to see if the Estos can take over CELIXIA. This plan would not have been formulated had the Estos Hive not been enchanted with the evil magic of Shadowscape wizards.
As a town, you must discover the evil shapeshifting estos and lynch them before they destroy your town. But beware; there may be more than just estos shapeshifters out to kill you.
Most of you are Krilians, the main race on CELIXIA. However several of you are Empods (flying creatures) and Drynn (water breathing creatures). Your race has nothing to do with your role in the game. Also, there could be a few members of the town that are well practiced in the skill on Ambush. If you are trying to kill a member with Ambush, be careful – you might be killed yourself.
The roles will not be disclosed but know this is a variant of a normal mafia game.
People in the Town (with your race) -- in alphabetical order
Æther Reaper ... *Krillian
boiwithteeth ... *Krillian
Ghurhgs ... *Empod
lionden_56 ... *Krillian
Maleficent ... *Krillian
Tekkactus... *Krillian
TJ... *Drynn
Interpolled ... *Krillian (Interpolled replaced UnknownKnowned)
Dead:
[Formerly Interpolled] ... *Drynn
thegeneralpublic ... *Empod
Yusuke ... *Krillian
Yawgmoth ... *Drynn
stolin ... *Krillian
UyOwned ... *Empod
*=your race. Again, you race has nothing to do with your role in this game.
Rules:
* Bold your votes. If you do not bold your vote, it will not be counted.
* Unvote, if necessary, before casting a new vote.
* Lynches will require a simple majority of votes. Once a player has reached the necessary majority, his pleas are useless and any attempts to unvote will be unheeded.
* You may also vote: no lynch – majority votes of this kind are necessary to end the day without a death.
* The game is not to be discussed outside of the thread unless your role specifically states when you may do so.
* Once your death scene has been posted, you’re dead. But... you still get a "Bah!" post.
* Do not edit or delete previously submitted posts.
* Do not quote any PMs from the moderator.
* If you have a night choice to make, please make it in a timely matter. If I must post a deadline, then choices sent after said deadline will not be counted.
* If you anticipate being unavailable for more than a 48-hour period, please post a notice to that effect in the thread.
* Most importantly: this is a game. Play it for fun, and play it as well as you possibly can. I expect nothing less.
Notes:
FoS = Finger of Suspicion. These are not actually votes.
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Streetz
11-20-2005, 08:30 PM
It is now Day 1.
lionden_56
11-20-2005, 08:34 PM
This ambush thing sounds interesting. Ok, here's my thought: The races have more to do with the game than Streetz is letting on. There's 3 Empods, 3 Drynns, and 8 Krillians. My theory is that at least one person of each race is "Mafia" or "Estos".
Sidenote: This game is really making me rue my decision of becoming the Estos mod...
Yusuke
11-20-2005, 08:42 PM
so are both mafia and estos the bad guys? im confused.
And i LOVE the ambush thing. although doctors/bodygaurds do the same thing in normal mafia, it works great
Streetz
11-20-2005, 08:43 PM
To clarify - The mafia are really Evil Estos Shapeshifters... who took over one of the townpeople before the game started. You are uncertain, as townspeople, how many evil people are in town.
Maleficent
11-20-2005, 08:51 PM
Aw do I hafta be the most common? haha, yea that could be it. 3 mafia though? and the races with only 3 of them would have hardly any townspeople. And he said your race has nothing to do with your role.
Hm.. well no Drynn in the set have Ambush, mostly Krillians do, and 1 empod does. Um.. does this have any connections to the set? lol.
Yusuke
11-20-2005, 08:55 PM
heh, i think thats what streetz had in mind. so the drynn will most probably not have ambush
lionden_56
11-20-2005, 08:56 PM
The quesion now is what does Ambush actually do?
Maleficent
11-20-2005, 08:57 PM
I think it's either if you lynch them then they get to kill someone that voted for them instead or if the mafia tries to kill them they get killed hm..
So there could be 5 Estos in this game?
Yusuke
11-20-2005, 08:59 PM
The quesion now is what does Ambush actually do?
I'm guessing its like anti-mafia. I dont think you can ambush a lynch XD
lionden_56
11-20-2005, 08:59 PM
There could be 1, there could be 5, there could be 13 for all we know...
Neuromancer
11-20-2005, 08:59 PM
Streetz wouldn´t be that obvious. I bet that at least 2 mafia members are among Krillians
lionden_56
11-20-2005, 09:01 PM
Streetz wouldn´t be that obvious. I bet that at least 2 mafia members are among Krillians
Maybe...Anyone here watch the show LOST? The whole estos taking over the townpeople thing sounds strangly like the Others from last week's episode :P
Oops, maybe stay on topic and don't answer that :D
Yusuke
11-20-2005, 09:01 PM
HEEEY its neuro. glad to see you around.... wait, i always see you around XD
Frankly, the number of mafia isnt the question. It's exactly what people do to stop the mafia.
Maleficent
11-20-2005, 09:03 PM
Race has nothing to do with your role though, they could all be Empods :P. Hm he said he needed at least 12 people for the game.. why might that be? lol
Ghurhgs
11-20-2005, 09:09 PM
Dude, last week's Lost rocked. It's just weird how they blend in so well, first Ethan with the front-part survivors and now Goldwin with the tailies. It's insane.
Yusuke
11-20-2005, 09:10 PM
Dude, last week's Lost rocked. It's just weird how they blend in so well, first Ethan with the front-part survivors and now Goldwin with the tailies. It's insane.
wow. are you just being random or did you post wrong
lionden_56
11-20-2005, 09:11 PM
He was responding to a post I made above...where I refenced Lost.
Anyway, back on topic...I still think race has something to do with it. I may be paranoid, though.
Streetz
11-20-2005, 09:13 PM
MOD NOTE: Imagine if I threw in a Vhad! :P
thegeneralpublic
11-20-2005, 09:22 PM
There'd be no reason to add in race if they didnt have SOMETHING to do with it. I'm guessing Ambush=Bodyguard with a kill slapped on.
Yusuke
11-20-2005, 09:24 PM
I agree. So basically, ambush is "If a Mafia tries to kill you, the Mafia is killed instead."
right?
lionden_56
11-20-2005, 09:28 PM
Probably a good guess.
thegeneralpublic
11-20-2005, 09:28 PM
no, that would mean instant win for the townies. It probably is one person that can defend someone else.
Yusuke
11-20-2005, 09:30 PM
Well, no actually it wouldnt. They can still be lynched. If the Mafia show intelligence in this game, they would be able to determine who they should avoid (eg taunting, just plain avoiding certain topics, etc.)
Thats just my views of course
thegeneralpublic
11-20-2005, 09:31 PM
I still think that that ability would shift power WAAAY too much towards the townies. Though I will keep that in mind...
lionden_56
11-20-2005, 09:32 PM
Well, no actually it wouldnt. They can still be lynched.
You say this like it is a certain. For that reason FOS: Yusuke
Æther Reaper
11-20-2005, 09:32 PM
Ambush seems kinda powerful, but not so much so.
Yusuke
11-20-2005, 09:34 PM
Well, no actually it wouldnt. They can still be lynched.
You say this like it is a certain. For that reason FOS: Yusuke
I'm reffering to my wording. It could be different. Streetz makes Ambush so vague its hard to tell
lionden_56
11-20-2005, 09:34 PM
Well, the vagueness has certainly sparked some good conversation.
Yusuke
11-20-2005, 09:37 PM
Of course. Its an aspect to the game that he has added that is new and untested. As far as we know, he could be messing with us >_<
Maleficent
11-20-2005, 09:43 PM
Hm I think I agree with tgp about Ambush being like a Bodyguard that can kill. But didn't Streetz say there were more than one? He said there were a few with Ambush. That could mean 1 though I dunno. Bah.
FoS: lionden_56 for FoSing Yusuke.
Yusuke
11-20-2005, 09:45 PM
wow.... that is one of the shallowest reasons ive seen. i mean, thx for trying to "defend" me, but if you could think of something more solid, that would be better.
Streetz
11-20-2005, 09:46 PM
Current Votes:
None.
Note: It takes 8 to lynch.
Maleficent
11-20-2005, 10:14 PM
Wasn't really defending you :P it didn't seem like a very good reason for him to do that, he just wants someone to die! MAFIA!! haha.
Yawgmoth
11-21-2005, 10:33 AM
I don't get this thing with races? Is there any difference from being a Krillian, Empod or Drynn?
Streetz
11-21-2005, 11:57 AM
I don't get this thing with races? Is there any difference from being a Krillian, Empod or Drynn?
I added in races for flavor. Since I made this a CELIXIA theme game... I needed something more to make it more like CELIXIA.
Hopefully this helps.
thegeneralpublic
11-21-2005, 12:47 PM
One again, streetz being vague...methinks he aint telling us everything
UyOwned
11-21-2005, 04:40 PM
The first lynch is hard because there's not a lot to arouse suspicion.
I'm guessing ambush is some kind of mafia-kill defense manuver.... dont know exactly how it works but ill bet its cool!
No lynch is always a bad idea for the town because a random vote has at least SOME chance of getting the mafia while no lynch has NO chance.... but I won't vote quite yet as I want to see if anything... suspicious develops.
Maleficent
11-21-2005, 04:48 PM
Semi-random vote: Æther Reaper. He isn't trying to kill people like in the other games.. hmm...
stolin
11-21-2005, 05:09 PM
The first lynch is hard because there's not a lot to arouse suspicion.
I'm guessing ambush is some kind of mafia-kill defense manuver.... dont know exactly how it works but ill bet its cool!
No lynch is always a bad idea for the town because a random vote has at least SOME chance of getting the mafia while no lynch has NO chance.... but I won't vote quite yet as I want to see if anything... suspicious develops.
MyOwned is right. If we are to have any hope against the shapeshifters, then we should at least vote for someone, though I'm not too sure of Mals reasoning. :|
Æther Reaper
11-21-2005, 05:15 PM
Semi-random vote: Æther Reaper. He isn't trying to kill people like in the other games.. hmm...
I kinda learned my lesson Maleficent. Now FoS: Maleficent
Random votes aren't good. We may have to do one today, but it is better to wait. Once someone gives us some suspicion, we can start the bloodthirsty killing.
Neuromancer
11-21-2005, 05:16 PM
But the truth is, no one has made even a single move that warrants suspicion.
thegeneralpublic
11-21-2005, 05:19 PM
Well, anything could constitue as suspicion from the right point of view.
lionden_56
11-21-2005, 05:22 PM
Well, anything could constitue as suspicion from the right point of view.
FOS: TGP for getting all theological on us.
Just kidding.
UnFOS: TGP
I'm finding the logic around that vote a little unsound, Mal.
Maleficent
11-21-2005, 05:38 PM
I kinda learned my lesson Maleficent. Now FoS: Maleficent
Random votes aren't good. We may have to do one today, but it is better to wait. Once someone gives us some suspicion, we can start the bloodthirsty killing.
Sure they are, to make them say something suspicious (that's my real reason :P but I can't really say that when I vote, now can I?).
UyOwned
11-21-2005, 06:04 PM
Well, anything could constitue as suspicion from the right point of view.
lol tgp. How suspicious of you to say so...
Ghurhgs
11-21-2005, 06:06 PM
Well, anything could constitute as suspicion from the right point of view.
Quote, Everybody's doing it!
thegeneralpublic
11-21-2005, 06:27 PM
I figured that was coming, Uyo. :D
boiwithteeth
11-21-2005, 09:56 PM
heey this is my first game of this but it seems a lot like the cry_wolf game that they had on AIM a while ago
lionden_56
11-21-2005, 10:00 PM
heey this is my first game of this but it seems a lot like the cry_wolf game that they had on AIM a while ago
For the first few days, it is kinda a cry-wolf type thing. Once the voting starts breaking down, and patterns develope and all that fun stuff, it becomes more strategic.
boiwithteeth
11-21-2005, 10:00 PM
ive gtg to bed so im gonna say No Lynch
lionden_56
11-21-2005, 10:01 PM
Guys, before you jump all over him...
Day one doesn't mean today as in Monday the 21st. Day one goes until someone gets lynched. That may be next week for all we know.
So guys, I think this is innocence. Don't kill him...
Streetz
11-21-2005, 10:24 PM
Votes Thus Far - Day One:
No Lynch - 1
biowithteetch
Reminder - you need 8 to lynch.
UyOwned
11-21-2005, 10:37 PM
Hmm.... I agree with lionden.
No reason to vote still.... the first day is (predictably) quite slow. When someone says something suspicious, we'll all jump over him/her i guess. Like ghurghs in mafia 4, by suggesting no lynch he got bandwagonned out almost immediately.
Yawgmoth
11-22-2005, 11:08 AM
So, if the Mafia never posted anything - Day 1 could theroetically go on forever?
thegeneralpublic
11-22-2005, 12:26 PM
in theory.
boiwithteeth
11-22-2005, 12:55 PM
oh i dint get that at all, i thought this was real time
Yawgmoth
11-22-2005, 04:09 PM
We could roll dices and vote for someone totally random! Randomness is good, I think?
Æther Reaper
11-22-2005, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by Yawgmoth
We could roll dices and vote for someone totally random! Randomness is good, I think?
Randomness is bad. Very bad.
Interpolled
11-22-2005, 04:36 PM
Ill go with the FoS: Yusuke, because he does seem to certain with that "they can stil be lynched"
Yawgmoth
11-22-2005, 04:38 PM
Well, isn't day one automatically going to be random? Since if those mafia guys have brains they will not do much obvious suspicious stuff?
Randomness at least has a chance to corner the beast amongst us! But as chance and randomness is on their side... Well, it's kind of hard to find a reason to vote for anyone. One would think that No lynch would be good since that doesn't decrease our numbers today, the night might though... But alas the No lynch thing seems to attract mobs and bandwagons, and since it gives up the chance to nail an Estos, it would most likely be worth it... I guess.
thegeneralpublic
11-22-2005, 05:44 PM
eh, the first day is going to be bandwagoning wether I like it or not. May as well join in.
Streetz
11-22-2005, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by Streetz
Votes Thus Far - Day One:
No Lynch - 1
biowithteetch
Reminder - you need 8 to lynch.
Sorry --
Semi-random votes:
Æther Reaper. -1
Maleficiant
This was posted before the No Lynch Vote -- I will catalog the Fos's later.
boiwithteeth
11-22-2005, 07:08 PM
everyone seems afraid to vote and its just a standstill so i think people should vote
Yawgmoth
11-22-2005, 07:12 PM
Well, the question is... for who?
UyOwned
11-22-2005, 07:45 PM
This standstill is obnoxious, but I have no good reason to vote for anyone. Ergh.... if nobody comes up with anything soon I might have to cast a random vote and get some stones rolling. Remember, a random vote is better than no vote because we have a small chance of getting the mafia (or whatever they're called) and it is doubtful that we'll be in a better position tomorrow.
Note that in a random vote the mafia, if there is more than one, (im guessing there's like 2) then they can sway the vote away from killing mafia. When watching random votes unfold, be wary for quick banwagoning as that is probably a sign of mafia.
Remember, you can cast a random vote and retract it later if you regret it, its not carved in stone!
Maleficent
11-22-2005, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by Interpolled
Ill go with the FoS: Yusuke, because he does seem to certain with that "they can stil be lynched"
Um.. how is that exactly?
Unvote: Æther Reaper, you seem good by me.
Vote: Interpolled
Maleficent
11-22-2005, 09:29 PM
Arg these multiple games are starting to confuse the heck outta me lol.
Ghurhgs
11-22-2005, 11:24 PM
Even though you all jumped me in Mafia 4, i'm still voting No Lynch. I don't like to vote for someone out of nowhere just to have them jump back at me for it.
Streetz
11-22-2005, 11:38 PM
Current tallies
Interpolled - 1
Maleficent
No Lynch - 2
boiwithteeth
Ghurhgs
..slow day...
Yawgmoth
11-23-2005, 06:35 AM
Well, there only seems to be one way to do this, randomness! We can only rely on luck on this first day, so... Well, there isn't much else to do than this bandwagoning stuff. A No lynch-vote would be nice, but - by forfeiting the chance of killing an Estos, we are somewhat... losing?
Sadly, I'll Vote: Interpolled
No real reason for why, since there is no real patterns to study - yet.
One can only hope one isn't to suspicous...
thegeneralpublic
11-23-2005, 10:54 AM
*Snorts* I'll vote interpolled if it will END the day...we'll see if he gets 7 votes or not.
UyOwned
11-23-2005, 03:07 PM
@ yawgmoth, why interpolled? It seems pretty random... however I see that you casted your vote after Maleficent changed his opinion away from aether reaper. This makes me think you were glad to see someone besides reaper on the board for votes. My logic may be off, but I will cast my vote...
vote: Yawgmoth
FOS: Æther Reaper
Yawgmoth
11-23-2005, 03:22 PM
Well, of course it seems suspicious, I could say all "i'm new to this game, etc" but my reason for voting for Interpolled is just "insane-insight". And of course every vote is going to be suspicious, because the bandwagons can serve the Estos if they manipulate us good enough. I could as well be voting for Interpolled because Mal is voting for him, as well as I could be hoping to distract attention from the Reaper. Whatever.
Maleficent
11-23-2005, 03:33 PM
I did vote Interpolled for a reason though; he only posted once so far to fos the person with the most votes for a reason that (at least I think) doesn't exist.
Yawgmoth
11-23-2005, 03:39 PM
Well, that's most likely a great reason! But if those Estos guys are as smart as I would have been, they would try to keep low profile on day one to get the randomness part on their side. Since whetever we like it our not, we are fumbling in the dark here.
UyOwned
11-23-2005, 05:04 PM
After re-reading the thread i guess I agree, Interpolled's vote came out of nowhere and seems the most suspicious thing anyone has said so far...
Unvote: Yawgmoth
vote: Interpolled
Streetz
11-23-2005, 05:32 PM
Current tallies
Interpolled - 3
Maleficent, Yawgmoth, UyOwned
No Lynch - 2
boiwithteeth
Ghurhgs
lionden_56
11-23-2005, 05:33 PM
Let the bandwagon jumping begin.
Official Vote: UyOwned
For reason stated above vote
Yawgmoth
11-23-2005, 05:40 PM
Hmm, the Estos Mod seems a bit suspiscious!! ;)
Maleficent
11-23-2005, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by Yawgmoth
Well, that's most likely a great reason! But if those Estos guys are as smart as I would have been, they would try to keep low profile on day one to get the randomness part on their side. Since whetever we like it our not, we are fumbling in the dark here.
Sounds kind of like Interpolled, although a lot of people haven't said anything. They could just not be very active though, same with him. Can't really tell anything, there's a higher chance than anything we'll vote off a townie day 1 though.
thegeneralpublic
11-23-2005, 07:47 PM
I bet Lionden is mafia just for kicks and giggles. :P
No, really, I think that today we really do have to just close our eyes and pull the trigger. Better someone than no one.
Streetz
11-23-2005, 07:52 PM
Note: There is still one person who hasn't read their PM'd role - and thus if they don't read it and post by the end of the week - I will be looking for a replacement.
thegeneralpublic
11-23-2005, 08:08 PM
Aparently, Francis Scott Key was correct in saying "O say can you see...by the ad's godly might!"
No, really, I think we should warn people when they sign up.
UyOwned
11-23-2005, 08:18 PM
Aparently, Francis Scott Key was correct in saying "O say can you see...by the ad's godly might!"
... i dont follow.
In any case, I don't feel strongly about Interpolled being Mafia, but after rereading the thread it seemed unlikely that Aether Reaper and Yawgmoth were teammates in crime. More specifically, after the "randomness is good/bad" disagreement. Mafia tend to agree on issues because they're stronger that way.
I am not sure whether I think Interpolled is mafia, but I don't have a better reason to suspect anyone else. I would rather not have a No Lynch day, it just gives the mafia more time to sneak up on us.
boiwithteeth
11-23-2005, 09:54 PM
hmm im really thinking of taking back my no lynch vote and hoping on the bandwagon against interpolled
Streetz
11-23-2005, 10:00 PM
Current tallies
Interpolled - 3
Maleficent, Yawgmoth, UyOwned
UyOwned - 1
lionden_56
No Lynch - 2
boiwithteeth
Ghurhgs
It takes 8 to lynch.
UnknownKnowned
11-23-2005, 10:23 PM
Vote: Interpolled
nobodys saying anything close to suspicious, gotta go with my gut
thegeneralpublic
11-24-2005, 10:49 AM
Okay, streetz. I'll vote.
OFFICIAL VOTE:INTERPOLLED
just to end this )$*#()$* day.
Æther Reaper
11-24-2005, 11:23 AM
Well, I would vote for Interpolled, but then it would look like bandwagoning. However, he has the most suspicious comment to date, so:
Vote: Interpolled.
Streetz
11-24-2005, 11:32 AM
Current tallies
Interpolled - 6
Maleficent, Yawgmoth, UyOwned, UnknownKnowned, thegeneralpublic, Æther Reaper
UyOwned - 1
lionden_56
No Lynch - 2
boiwithteeth
Ghurhgs
lionden_56
11-24-2005, 11:34 AM
I am simply amazed at the bandwagoning of the players on this forum. I would unvote and vote for one of the bandwagoners, but I can see it won't matter.
Yawgmoth
11-24-2005, 12:04 PM
So, Lionden, what do you propose we do instead? There is nothing more we can do than to "bandwagon" since this day can go on forever unless we act, those Estos are most certainly not stupid - well, hmm, if Interpolled would be one of them, maybe they would have tried to hinder us? But alas, since there is nothing to go on here, we have to kill someone random. If we vote for No lynch we will miss the possibility of killing an Estos and a chance of X/12 (where X is greater than zero) is a lot better than a chance of 0/12. Most likely though Inter is one of us and his "suspicous moves" are all based on inactivity.
Maleficent
11-24-2005, 12:43 PM
Haha I think most people just want the game to move on.
Originally posted by Yawgmoth
Most likely though Inter is one of us and his "suspicous moves" are all based on inactivity.
That could be true, but do we have any way of knowing for sure? My guess is no matter what we do we'll vote a townie off because they're just most likey to go, and knowing how Streetz was in Mafia 3 it could really be anyone :P.
thegeneralpublic
11-24-2005, 12:46 PM
What does streetz being in mafia 3 have to do with anything?
Yawgmoth
11-24-2005, 12:51 PM
I think that Mal wants to point out that anyone could be an Estos.
thegeneralpublic
11-24-2005, 12:54 PM
um...okay...still not following, but I'll pretend I do.
Who has not voted yet?
Maleficent
11-24-2005, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by Yawgmoth
I think that Mal wants to point out that anyone could be an Estos.
Exactly. In that game I had more reason to suspect innocent people than him and he was mafia.
thegeneralpublic
11-24-2005, 12:56 PM
Ahhh. That helps explain it. I'm sorry; didnt see the connection.
How many for a lynch?
Oh, by the way...2000 posts! :getdown:
Maleficent
11-24-2005, 01:04 PM
Auch (8*)
Streetz
11-24-2005, 01:05 PM
You need 8 to lynch.
[Note: TGP - PM me with your title.]
boiwithteeth
11-24-2005, 01:49 PM
unvote no lynch
REAL VOTE: INTERPOLLED
Interpolled
11-24-2005, 03:17 PM
i believe that bandwagoning on day 1 is necessary.
but you guys are bandwagoning on the wrong guy.
whatever, i wont try to stop you, its your loss.
look out for reaper, yawgie and yusuke
Streetz
11-24-2005, 04:18 PM
Current tallies
Interpolled - 7 (need 1 more)
Maleficent, Yawgmoth, UyOwned, UnknownKnowned, thegeneralpublic, Æther Reaper, boiwithteeth
UyOwned - 1
lionden_56
No Lynch - 1
Ghurhgs
thegeneralpublic
11-24-2005, 04:46 PM
Come on...day one could end!
stolin
11-24-2005, 08:03 PM
Official Vote: Interpolled
I love you man, but the others suspect you....
Neuromancer
11-24-2005, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by Yawgmoth
So, Lionden, what do you propose we do instead? There is nothing more we can do than to "bandwagon" since this day can go on forever unless we act, those Estos are most certainly not stupid - well, hmm, if Interpolled would be one of them, maybe they would have tried to hinder us? But alas, since there is nothing to go on here, we have to kill someone random. If we vote for No lynch we will miss the possibility of killing an Estos and a chance of X/12 (where X is greater than zero) is a lot better than a chance of 0/12. Most likely though Inter is one of us and his "suspicous moves" are all based on inactivity.
I find that urge to kill someone very suspicious... we need to take action, but why the insistence?
UnknownKnowned
11-24-2005, 08:37 PM
haha he has a very interseting slay now ask names later attitude ^^
stolin
11-24-2005, 09:03 PM
I see hwere Neuro is going. the desire to kill someone is very mafia-ish
FoS: Yawgmoth
UnknownKnowned
11-24-2005, 09:52 PM
shouldnt it be night now?
UyOwned
11-24-2005, 11:16 PM
... wait for streetz i guess
Yusuke
11-24-2005, 11:51 PM
since i havent been on in a long time... im voting no vote cuz i have to get my vote in
dont hold it against me, i just dont have the info right now to vote
Streetz
11-25-2005, 01:05 AM
Poor Interpolled. The blood-eyed town gathered around him while he was buying armor wax at the local blacksmith from Bojek'ga, the Vhad blacksmith... the angered mob of townspeople knocked him to the ground with fierce anger and suspicion -- putting him unconscience.
When he awoke he was bound by a noose and put through incomprehensible torture in an attempt by the townies to get information from him... but in the end he was killed. His last words were ... "You are killing the wrong person.... please! look out for ..." - but apparently he was too weak from the torture to speak loud enough.
The town, after his death, was extremely silent - as if something terrible had just conspired. Several members in the crowd started to cry. I was a sad day in the town. A sad day. The townies thought they were doing the right thing in an effort to reveal the evil Estos Shapeshifters -- also known as the mafia.
After he was killed, the townspeople searched his house for clues to his alignment. They found lots of dirty clothes and some platinum chainmail. They also found love letters to his Drynn mistress at the Vaspan Dome. What they didn't find was anything connecting him to the mafia (the corrupted Estos Hive). However, they did find scented candles and Nagachampa Inscent sticks. Was he a hippie? Perhaps. They donated all of his things to the Toch'Nar Salvation Army. The platinum chainmail might be of use to Galior.
But now... after the torture and searching and crying and anguish... he is dead.
Before night fell, the oldest town elder asked in a raised voice... "Will the town's thirst for innocent blood ever end?" And then night fell. The moons were bright and a mist set over the town of Lo-nogt.
Interpolled was a townie.
Send in your night roles to me. Night roles are due by the end of Friday.
:this thread is locked until all of the PM roles are PMed to me .. and will be unlocked once daytime commences.:
Streetz
11-25-2005, 06:40 PM
5 more hours to get your roles into me.
Streetz
11-26-2005, 12:38 AM
I am still waiting for one more night role PM -- I will extend night until afternoon tomorrow.
...
Streetz
11-26-2005, 12:20 PM
[size=16]<span style='color:yellow'>Everyone awoke this morning feeling refreshed and ready to go on with their duties. It is almost as if they forgot about the terrible lynching of Interpolled. Perhaps they had each dreamed that the evil estos shapeshifters (mafia) didn't exist.
That is until the oldest town elder screamed "thegeneralpublic is dead!". When the locals investigated his death scene all they found were two daggers and some ooze near his body. The daggers look to have be used to kill TGP while he was sleeping... and the ooze? No one knows. Perhaps this is a mark of the Estos Mafia.
The people of the town were saddened to find out that TGP dead - he was the town comedian, always making everyone laugh. Now they have nothing to laugh for. Now the town is angry.</span>
It is now Day 2.
boiwithteeth
11-26-2005, 12:28 PM
i have an idea of who a mafia is but id wanna say yet
Yawgmoth
11-26-2005, 12:35 PM
Well, that was kind of bad... We who voted for Interpolled are most likely kind of suspect by now. (except tgp who seems to be dead)
As for my "bloodthirst" it's more of an urge to get the game moving, I've got a need for speed. ;) And alas, day 1 votes have to be random (mostly)
But now, we should maybe look at those who voted for Interpolled, and why someone would want to kill thegeneralpublic?
UyOwned
11-26-2005, 01:21 PM
I had a bad feeling that interpolled wasn't mafia. But once the bandwagon starts its hard to stop... i think we need to gather our senses and think logically about who it could be...
UnknownKnowned
11-26-2005, 02:28 PM
*cry* poor interpolled poor tgp
Yawgmoth
11-26-2005, 02:29 PM
Insane-insight: I think that Lionden_56 might have been onto something...
UyOwned
11-26-2005, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by Yawgmoth
Insane-insight: I think that Lionden_56 might have been onto something...
but what do I have against tgp? Is this simply because I voted for you earlier and you want to get suspicion off your chest?
Yawgmoth
11-26-2005, 07:49 PM
Not exactly, everyone should have all reasons to suspect me. I was the second one to vote against Interpolled. I insisted on a random lynch. I could very well have known that Interpolled was a townsfolk. But, this was mostly to see any reaction from you. Not the most brilliant of schemes, but sometimes...
At the moment we should suspect everyone who voted against Interpolled, and also look into who would have any reason (if any?) to kill tgp...
I'd recommend everyone to re-read the thread a thousand times and memorise it and grow mad.
UyOwned
11-26-2005, 08:01 PM
"the wizard who reads a thousand posts is powerful. the wizards who memorizes a thousand posts is insane."
To my recollection tgp never FOS'd anyone to my recollection nor did anything to tick anyone off...
lionden_56
11-26-2005, 08:03 PM
I probably shouldn't be telling you this...cuz it will make you suspect me, but TGP FOS'ed me. I'm telling you this to prove my innocence. Because I'm making this known to everyone, I'm not hiding anything.
boiwithteeth
11-26-2005, 08:07 PM
i read back throught the thing and i come up with the same thing interpolled said before he died so
FOS - Yawgmoth
Yawgmoth
11-26-2005, 08:15 PM
Hmm, and Lionden voted for Uyowned... So, that eithers makes someone of you innocent, or sneaky estos who vote sneakily... hehe, well anyway - there isn't much to go on here. The question then is why did tgp fos lionden? And why do I write so much?
Well, I'd really like to know the reasoning behind your finger boiwithteeth.
Yawgmoth
11-26-2005, 08:18 PM
Also, why did you unvote me UyOwned?
UnknownKnowned
11-26-2005, 08:20 PM
on the contrary, i dont think yawgmoth is mafia at all. i cant find any "evidence" to support your accusations.
boiwithteeth
11-26-2005, 11:02 PM
cuz it seems like u really got the band wagon rolling and because and some of the things you say seem like you are trying to get people to vote for townies idk thats why its only an fos
UyOwned
11-26-2005, 11:13 PM
Hmm... I guess I unvoted Yawgmoth because, like I said, after reading the thread it didn't seem like you and the reaper were the mafia which is what I had suspected. I still have a little suspicions about you but I think you're ok.
Why I voted for Interpolled... I mean it seems silly now that he's dead and was a townie but I didn't really have much to go on and it seemed like he could be guilty.
All I have to say is... get ready for another long day guys :roll:
Streetz
11-27-2005, 11:39 AM
TJ will be replacing Runeblade.
thegeneralpublic
11-27-2005, 12:44 PM
Wow...I go to Montreal for a day and what do I get? A stab in the back! They got me because I knew too much. Don't let that phase you!
EDIT: Sorry, Yawg, that was my grude post.
Yawgmoth
11-27-2005, 12:45 PM
You knew too much? What did tgp know that he shouldn't? Who should we suspect? The questions!
Maleficent
11-27-2005, 01:17 PM
Meh. Slow is good then. There has to be some evidence around but I don't have enough time to look right now, I'll look smore later today. Right now though randomness is a bad idea I think.
Yawgmoth
11-27-2005, 01:22 PM
Yes, Randomness is very bad, after day 1 that is. Now we have to resort to cold, calculated logic. Who should we vote for? And why?
Hey all, I'm here to replace Runeblade. Wow I've missed alot. This is my first time playing Mafiascum (Celixa Estos) and I'm still a little fuzzy about the rules, even after reading the website...but I'll carry on. Oh, and hi everyone btw :D
Yawgmoth
11-27-2005, 01:35 PM
What?! Did you just confess about being an Estos?
Yawgmoth
11-27-2005, 01:44 PM
I may be reading this wrong, but did you just write that you were one of the Estos? Or were you just saying this is your first time playing a Mafia game?
lol I thought that the game was called celixa estos, instead of mafiascum. sorry for the confusion,
So what have the main accusations been so far? Please dont start jumping on me, but this is my first game ever. I'm just looking back at the thread, and became slightly dizzy from the people voting , unvoting, and FoSing, (whatever that is).
Æther Reaper
11-27-2005, 02:14 PM
Finger of Suspicion - you suspect that person of being mafia.
Ahhhhh, so thats what that is. thank you Aether reaper
Maleficent
11-27-2005, 04:16 PM
Ah welcome Mr. TJ person guy thing dude whatever, this is like my 2nd-and-a-half game so I'm pretty new too. It's not all that bad, just like mafiascum if you've ever played that.. basically there are a few 'estos' or 'mafia' in a game and the rest are good people, the mafia get to kill good people at night and during the day the good people have to kill the mafia - hence the voting/unvoting/FoSing.
You FoS someone if you think they may be mafia but aren't sure, and vote for them if you are (at least pretty) sure. Then you can always unvote to change your vote or if you think they're good.
Of course the mafia people shouldn't tell who they are, but during the day everyone discusses who they think is mafia and why and the person with the most against them usually gets lynched (they're out of the game). It really helps to read everything that everyone has posted, by the way.
Sorry if that doesn't explain it too well I'm new as well, and there are some other things to it as well but that's just the jist of it :D.
Maleficent
11-27-2005, 04:24 PM
FoS: Yawgmoth for reasons Neuromancer pointed out.
Originally posted by Yawgmoth
As for my "bloodthirst" it's more of an urge to get the game moving, I've got a need for speed.
Hm somehow I don't think so.
Originally posted by UnknownKnowned
on the contrary, i dont think yawgmoth is mafia at all. i cant find any "evidence" to support your accusations.
FoS: UnknownKnowned
Yawgmoth
11-27-2005, 04:32 PM
Argh... I'm not mafia, I just want stuff to happen. And since I realised day one was going to be random I thought the faster getting it over with the better. Well, and how bloodthirsty I am depends how you read my posts.
I somewhat suspected UnknownKnowned for "protecting" me, since that was bound to bring attention to me. But I don't know really.
For everything I know all of you could be mafia.
Æther Reaper
11-27-2005, 04:37 PM
Vote: Yawgmoth
FoS: Yawgmoth
FoS: UnknownKnowned
For everything I know all of you could be mafia.
Caught you in a lie. Everyone can't be mafia. A statement like that is pretty much showing your mafia. UnknownKnowned is probably a cohort.
UyOwned
11-27-2005, 04:43 PM
A bold statement, for sure.
Interpolled's statement could have been merely logic, not defense of mafia.
Of course, now everyone's gonna jump on me right? Honestly I think its a bad idea to jump all over people who try to protect people instead of accuse them. This will force everyone to accuse blindly for fear of drawing suspicion to themself. Consequently, the mafia will win.
Yawgmoth does seem a little suspicious to me but I urge you guys not to be hasty with votes!
Yawgmoth
11-27-2005, 04:45 PM
A lie? I never lie. Since I don't know how many mafia guys there are I don't know anything. And still, I meant it as that I can't be sure which one of you are townpersons and who are not. But vote for me, I'm most likely the most suspicous of us all.
Yawgmoth
11-27-2005, 04:49 PM
Another thing, shouldn't we worry about the people who don't write anything?
Ghurhgs
11-27-2005, 04:51 PM
I apologize, I was busy this weekend and didn't have a whole lot of time to go on the forums. My vote, for now, is No Lynch. Let me go back to Day 1 night and read back up before I put a permanent vote.
Neuromancer
11-27-2005, 04:55 PM
Some of us have a lot of schoolwork left. I mainly log in for a while to do my duty as a moderator, but you probably won´t see me for the next two weeks, because I'll be starting finals season.
Yawgmoth
11-27-2005, 05:36 PM
Gyargh! Seems that my thirst for blood will go unquenched for a long time!! ;)
Streetz
11-27-2005, 05:44 PM
Counts for Day 2 Thus Far:
Yawgmoth - 1
Æther Reaper
No Lynch - 1
Ghurhgs
---------------
Notes: Please bold your Votes, Unvotes and your FOS's. Thanks.
To Neuro - Do you want me to have your replaced in this game if you are going to be too busy with finals?
Interpolled
11-27-2005, 05:58 PM
Oooh ooh! Pick me for the replacement
UyOwned
11-27-2005, 06:08 PM
Hmm... I'm pretty sure ghosts can't come back as replacements because of the things they know, but I dunno.
I don't think this day should move as fast. We need to consider our options.
Yawgmoth
11-27-2005, 06:19 PM
Yes, of course, time is on our side now. We'll have to search for scummy patterns...
And what would a ghost have seen that would make it unreturnable?
And still, what is this Ambush thing?
Yawgmoth
11-27-2005, 06:20 PM
But that time is on our side doesn't mean that we should get all lazy, I'd really like if the "others" could post so that we could get some sort of... "conversation"...
Streetz
11-27-2005, 06:27 PM
Originally posted by Interpolled
Oooh ooh! Pick me for the replacement
Sorry - you can't return. Someone that hasn't already been in the game would have to make the replacement - if it is needed. I don't think Neuro will want to be replaced.
Maleficent
11-27-2005, 06:57 PM
Wait wait wait I got a different idea... what if UnknownKnowned and UyOwned are trying to protect Yawgmoth just to get him killed? Because right now most people are more suspicious of Yawgmoth, and they could be saying that to make everyone think they're all mafia, but the votes will go to Yawgmoth.. hm... trickyness.
Yea that ambush thing hm... maybe it's just anti-mafia. But I dunno... it could be like a vigilante thing too.
Neuromancer
11-27-2005, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by Streetz
To Neuro - Do you want me to have your replaced in this game if you are going to be too busy with finals?
It wouldn´t be a bad idea at all.
boiwithteeth
11-27-2005, 07:26 PM
thats a really good point maleficiant cuz i do suspect yawgmoth but maybe there's three mafia and its yawgmoth, uyowned, unknownKnowed and uyowned and unknownknowed are trying to sell out yawgmoth to make themselves look innocent. but idk
Another thing it could also be aether reaper knowing that everyone suspects yawgmoth trying to get the bandwagon rolling on him.
UnknownKnowned
11-27-2005, 07:27 PM
i really doubt yawgmoth is mafia, my guesses were the reaper and tgp, but sadly it was not tgp
Æther Reaper
11-27-2005, 07:30 PM
The mafia get on the bandwagon with the third and fourth votes. At the third vote, the bandwagon is at the critical point. It either fails or succeeds. The fourth vote makes it so the bandwagon succeeds. I am not mafia. I suspect Yawgmoth, especially when he starts making assumptions.
boiwithteeth
11-27-2005, 07:31 PM
yeah i think ill end up going reaper
un FOS yawgmoth
FOS Aetherreaper
boiwithteeth
11-27-2005, 07:32 PM
id what to think anymore
boiwithteeth
11-27-2005, 07:33 PM
un FOS anyone i had FOSed
UyOwned
11-27-2005, 07:48 PM
wow very indecisive...
umm... i think i might have been third of fourth on that bandwagon. I guess it seemed like a good idea at the time cause I didn't have other leads. But...
in all honesty, not a lot has been going on that constitutes as suspicious activity. what do you guys think?
Maleficent
11-27-2005, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by boiwithteeth+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(boiwithteeth)</div><div class='quotemain'>id what to think anymore[/b]
hahahaha I'll have to agree with you there, really anyone could be mafia. It could be Reaper too hrm you have a good point. But if it happens to be a more experienced player we'll probably just be suspecting more innocent people. *sigh* what else do we have... hrm did night take a really really really long time? If so it might have been because of people that didn't post a lot... but if there's cops and the like then yea bah.
<!--QuoteBegin-UyOwned
in all honesty, not a lot has been going on that constitutes as suspicious activity. what do you guys think?[/quote]
Yup I agree, and I bet a lot of the suspicious people are innocent because that's how it turns out most the time. And if the mafia is any good they'll pay special care not to give hints that they are mafia. So how about the least suspicious people? lol
stolin
11-27-2005, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by Æther Reaper
Vote: Yawgmoth
FoS: Yawgmoth
FoS: UnknownKnowned
For everything I know all of you could be mafia.
Caught you in a lie. Everyone can't be mafia. A statement like that is pretty much showing your mafia. UnknownKnowned is probably a cohort.
most logical post yet imo.
and for that reason
Vote: Yawgmoth
big honkin' FoS: Unknownedknown
Yusuke
11-27-2005, 09:33 PM
Vote: Yawgmoth
for the same as stolin and reaper... but for the sake of realizing this is bandwagon
FoS: Aether Reaper
UyOwned
11-27-2005, 10:00 PM
what if yawgmoth is a townie? are reaper and unknownknowned still suspicious?
nothing is telling me to vote right now. im not just going to jump on the bandwagon with no good reason.
Streetz
11-27-2005, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by Neuromancer+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Neuromancer)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Streetz
To Neuro - Do you want me to have your replaced in this game if you are going to be too busy with finals?
It wouldn´t be a bad idea at all.[/b][/quote]
Tekkactus will be replacing you, Neuro. Thanks for trying the game out - I am sorry your school work will not allow you to finish this one.
Tekk- I will be sending you your role shortly.
Tekkactus
11-27-2005, 11:02 PM
Hello everyone!
UnknownKnowned
11-27-2005, 11:27 PM
hey tekk, welcome to the crazy world of celixia mafia. heres a hint, dont say anything about your beliefs about someone or bad things happen
as for the FOS on me, im just stating that i think yawg is townie
if you see that as suspcious than i cant stop you there
Streetz
11-28-2005, 12:09 AM
Votes so far:
Yawgmoth - 3
Aether Reaper, stolin, yusuke
Ghurhgs - 1
No Lynch
It takes 7 to lynch.
Yawgmoth
11-28-2005, 01:11 AM
Hmm, voting for me won't help you much. But if that is your wish, then allright.
Yet as I AM a Townsperson, I'd recommend not wasting your votes on me. But you shouldn't trust my words. After my death, be suspicious of all who voted for me.
And what assumptions have I made?
Æther Reaper
11-28-2005, 08:14 AM
Unvote: Yawgmoth
There really isn't any reason to lynch the guy. There really isn't any suspicious moves going on yet.
FoS: Unknownedknowned
Fos: Yawgmoth
I've been rereading the posts, and so far these two seem to be the most suspicious. I'm not going to vote anyone just yet, but i agree that those who are being very inactive might be just making sure they don't slip on anything. I don't know for sure, but this is just my intuition speaking.
The reason that I've FoS'd these two might be a bit idiotic, but I don't really know about this game yet, so the really good guys are probably very good at manipulating others. Look out for those who are pushing very hard to get someone lynched.
UyOwned
11-28-2005, 03:11 PM
Vote: Aether Reaper
This guy seems like trouble, very uncertain and almost trying too hard to veer away from suspicion. I'm not majorly confident in this vote, but I'm throwing this opinion out there.
Maleficent
11-28-2005, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by stolin+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(stolin)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Æther Reaper
Vote: Yawgmoth
FoS: Yawgmoth
FoS: UnknownKnowned
For everything I know all of you could be mafia.
Caught you in a lie. Everyone can't be mafia. A statement like that is pretty much showing your mafia. UnknownKnowned is probably a cohort.
most logical post yet imo.
and for that reason
Vote: Yawgmoth
big honkin' FoS: Unknownedknown[/b][/quote]
Hm hm hm...
FoS: Stolin
FoS: Æther Reaper
I never FoSed UnknownKnowned, but if I did I'd undo it. As for these fellas, They could both be mafia, also knowing a lot of people are suspicious for Yawgmoth and trying to start a bandwagon on him and maybe UnknownKnowned.
Tekkactus
11-28-2005, 05:12 PM
After reading that quoted post, I know for a fact that a FOS: Æther Reaper is in order. Misquoting a figure of speech in order to get people to bandwagon Yawg? And either Stolin is a cohort or he's just dumb. :wink:
stolin
11-28-2005, 06:18 PM
lol, then, I must be dumb :P
I just saw reapers logic in seeing UK working with Yawgmoth. I tend to join the bandwagon, Im not very good at this game.... :( .
I don't know about Yawgie anymore, now that I have looked threought the pages.
UK seemes so suspicious the way he tries to side up with ppl all the time. My FoS's remain.
in the words of streetz:
:cheer:
UnknownKnowned
11-28-2005, 07:05 PM
im siding with yawg cause i can pretty much guarantee hes town, as for me, im not so good at this game either, its kinda my first time to play other than the reg mafia going on at the moment
Yawgmoth
11-28-2005, 07:31 PM
Hmm, it seems that the suspisciouns are heading towards the Reaper. So he voted for me, maybe he got overexcited about seeing a "lie". Well, I'd recommend everyone to re-read all posts again. I some-what semi-suspect Reaper and Yusuke, but that is more instinct than logic...
boiwithteeth
11-28-2005, 08:01 PM
VOTE:AETHER REAPER
hes not my first choice but i do think hes mafia and i want to get things moving
Æther Reaper
11-28-2005, 08:49 PM
FoS: boiwithteeth
You just made a vote without any reasons backing it up. If your bandwagoning, you are showing your scummy side. Otherwise, I suggest you need to give some proof for your vote.
Streetz
11-28-2005, 10:42 PM
Votes so far:
Yawgmoth - 2
stolin, yusuke
Æther Reaper - 2
UyOwned, boiwithteeth
No Lynch - 1
Ghurhgs
It takes 7 to lynch.
Yusuke
11-29-2005, 01:01 AM
Originally posted by UnknownKnowned
im siding with yawg cause i can pretty much guarantee hes town, as for me, im not so good at this game either, its kinda my first time to play other than the reg mafia going on at the moment
really.... how DO you know XD
Yawgmoth
11-29-2005, 10:34 AM
Have I done anything that reeks of mafia? But nonetheless, this is a game paranoia and propaganda...
I suspect, you - Reaper, for pretty much the same reasons that have been stated already by UyOwned, Mal and Tekk... But I don't know where to place my vote...
So FoS: AEther Reaper (dunno how to make those fancy AE's)
But as I am somewhat suspiscous of everyone, it doesn't matter that much.
Wow...maybe I should've just started a small game before playing a big one. But anyway...
FoS Aether Reaper
I think that Aether Reaper might just be covering for Yawgmoth. For that reason I'm thinking of voting for Yawgmoth. Just thinking though.
Yawgmoth
11-29-2005, 01:47 PM
Despite the risk of seeming bandwagoning, I'll go from bold to insane. I'll cast my vote:
Vote: Æther Reaper
Odin willing, this'll not get any bad repercussions.
Maleficent
11-29-2005, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by Æther Reaper+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Æther Reaper)</div><div class='quotemain'>FoS: boiwithteeth
You just made a vote without any reasons backing it up. If your bandwagoning, you are showing your scummy side. Otherwise, I suggest you need to give some proof for your vote.[/b]
His reasons are probably what everyone else reasoned that makes you look suspicious.
<!--QuoteBegin-Yawgmoth
Despite the risk of seeming bandwagoning, I'll go from bold to insane. I'll cast my vote:
Vote: Æther Reaper
Odin willing, this'll not get any bad repercussions.[/quote]
Uh o, we have a 3rd voter :shock: lol
Yawgmoth
11-29-2005, 02:24 PM
Sadly for me, votes 3 and 4 are the most likely to be mafia-votes.
Hmmm...this seems to be bandwagoning very quickly. I'm not gonna jump on it...at least not until I see some proper evidence.
Yawgmoth
11-29-2005, 02:59 PM
Well, there isn't any evidence at all. I can only base my votes on what I've read in the posts and what I suspect. Not foolproof, but I have no ideas of any other ways to go. And isn't a lynch always a "bandwagon"? (I really hate that word, it's ugly and I don't really know what it means, being from Sweden my vocabulary isn't all that great.)
Maleficent
11-29-2005, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by Yawgmoth
Well, there isn't any evidence at all. I can only base my votes on what I've read in the posts and what I suspect. Not foolproof, but I have no ideas of any other ways to go. And isn't a lynch always a "bandwagon"? (I really hate that word, it's ugly and I don't really know what it means, being from Sweden my vocabulary isn't all that great.)
Right, there isn't, only vague clues that may or may not be wrong.
A bandwagon is where everyone starts doing the same thing someone else started (like one person votes for Bob, then everyone starts voting for Bob). Haha and you're right, every lynch IS a bandwagon, because more than one people have to vote. I suppose it depends how fast it goes to be considered suspicious, but even that doesn't really help.
Yawgmoth
11-29-2005, 03:50 PM
Allright, that clears out any problems of understanding the word... Although it still sounds ugly, should be something better like... Hraefnsid'r ;)
Yes, the speed of the votes can depend on when someone is logged in and whatnot, if the game was in realtime it would be different though.
Tekkactus
11-29-2005, 04:12 PM
I'm still holding back on my vote, but if I hear Æther say 'scummy' one more time it's swinging his way. It's just gives a snide and sinister vibe, ya'know?
Æther Reaper
11-29-2005, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by Tekkactus
I'm still holding back on my vote, but if I hear Æther say 'scummy' one more time it's swinging his way. It's just gives a snide and sinister vibe, ya'know?
It is the official term for mafia.
FoS: Yawgmoth
3rd vote is mafia spot. It has been said. You can't say it is due to when they logged in. He FoSed me, then TJ FoSed, then Yawg voted. That is suspicious. If it was due to time, then he would have voted right away. However, he waited. Why? He has something to hide so he wants to bandwagon against me, one of his main opposers.
If I get another vote, I will reveal my role. You won't want me to die. Espicially before I can use my ability for the first time.
Maleficent
11-29-2005, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by Æther Reaper+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Æther Reaper)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Tekkactus
I'm still holding back on my vote, but if I hear Æther say 'scummy' one more time it's swinging his way. It's just gives a snide and sinister vibe, ya'know?
It is the official term for mafia.
FoS: Yawgmoth
3rd vote is mafia spot. It has been said. You can't say it is due to when they logged in. He FoSed me, then TJ FoSed, then Yawg voted. That is suspicious. If it was due to time, then he would have voted right away. However, he waited. Why? He has something to hide so he wants to bandwagon against me, one of his main opposers.
If I get another vote, I will reveal my role. You won't want me to die. Espicially before I can use my ability for the first time.[/b][/quote]
You know, I don't think the spot matters so much. If no one votes 3rd or 4th nothing will happen ever and the mafia will win. Now, the finishing vote maybe, or if 2 people vote in a row agreeing and trying to make up a bunch of bs reasons, then yea, but just because someone voted in a certain spot doesn't make them mafia.
Haha ability? Like what? Kill a townie? :P lol j/k
Yawgmoth
11-30-2005, 11:23 AM
If you have an important role, that wasn't so smart Reaper, because of that you will most likely not survive the night.
3rd and 4th vote aren't always mafia vote, but yes, it is most likely for mafia to vote there to urge the masses. As I said in my post. And I don't want to "bandwagon" against you for being an opposer, I vote for you because you seem like scum to me.
Without revealing your role - why shouldn't I vote for you?
Maleficent
11-30-2005, 02:20 PM
Or if he's not mafia he could survive the night to make us think he is. There's too much to this game lol.
Tekkactus
11-30-2005, 03:29 PM
For the sake of curiosity:
Official Vote: Æther Reaper
Now make good on your words and spill!
Yawgmoth
11-30-2005, 04:09 PM
For the sake of keeping Reaper's role (if any) secret, Unvote: AEther Reaper.
As he said, we won't want him to die. It could be fake, but It's better to be safe than sorry? I guess
UnknownKnowned
11-30-2005, 04:23 PM
but It's better to be safe than sorry? I guess
thats exactly what he wants you to think, and for the posts earlier and the obvious attempt at saving his life
Vote: AEther Reaper
Yawgmoth
11-30-2005, 04:30 PM
All right... Reaper, please try to explain your actions and give me a reason to not vote for you, without putting down your role... If your role is any important that will make you a Flagbearer ;)
Æther Reaper
11-30-2005, 04:53 PM
Let me just say I am the opposite of a member of the mafia.
Streetz
11-30-2005, 05:00 PM
Votes so far:
Yawgmoth - 2
stolin, yusuke
Æther Reaper - 4
UyOwned, boiwithteeth, Tekkactus, UnknownKnowned
No Lynch - 1
Ghurhgs
It takes 7 to lynch.
Yawgmoth
11-30-2005, 05:03 PM
I say we let the Reaper prove his worth. I would recommend you all to unvote him, if he claims to be some important role - we should at least try to believe him. That's my opinion, at least. Vote for me or somebody else instead.
UnknownKnowned
11-30-2005, 05:18 PM
okay, thats ridiculous, if everyone claimed to be an important role, this game wouldnt go anywhere.
Yawgmoth
11-30-2005, 05:21 PM
Yes, but he is the first to claim, and also I'm not desperate enough to take the risk of voting off someone important this early. Alas, proof would be nice - but there isn't any proof for anything in Mafia.
I say we give Reaper another day. But that's just my opinion, disregard it as much as you want.
UnknownKnowned
11-30-2005, 05:23 PM
if you give him a day, and hes mafia, the townies lose another member.
also, woudl anyone want to say.. hey im mafia?
aether likes to reveal his "role" or what he tells us is his role in mafia games
so watch out
thats all im saying on the subject
Streetz
11-30-2005, 05:27 PM
The deadline for this day is tomorrow evening.
Streetz
11-30-2005, 05:39 PM
Correcting myself.. I meant by the end of Friday.
There are still MANY people who haven't voted.
lionden_56
11-30-2005, 06:20 PM
Official Vote: Æther Reaper
Æther Reaper
11-30-2005, 06:58 PM
Lynch the vigilante. Fine, it is your loss.
Yawgmoth
11-30-2005, 06:59 PM
Please give the Reaper another night!
UnknownKnowned
11-30-2005, 07:02 PM
Yawgmoth said:
Please give the Reaper another night!
sounds like hes trying wayyyy too hard to keep aether alive, maybe its just me but it looks like aether and yawgmoth are in cahoots[/b]
Yawgmoth
11-30-2005, 07:07 PM
Maybe I'm trying to hard to make you suspiscous and kill him? Maybe I think that his claim for Vigilantism is enough? If we kill him and he turns out a vigilante, it is bad. I'd gladly sacrifice myself or any other townsfolk for a potential vigilante... If his claim is false... Then... I don't know, but his claim should be worth something.
And if we were cahoots (what is a cahoot? I presume something like cohort?) why would Reaper start the "bandwagon" against me?
boiwithteeth
11-30-2005, 07:07 PM
yawgmoth y r u trying to protect Reaper and telling people to vote for you instead of him this only gives me more reason to suspect you. I would unvote Reaper and vote yawgmoth if it wasnt for my need of maintaining the little speed this game has.
boiwithteeth
11-30-2005, 07:09 PM
yes cahoots is like cohorts but it means like you guys are secretly planning and it sounds way cooler than cohorts.
Yawgmoth
11-30-2005, 07:12 PM
Speed is not on our side now, speed makes for hasty decisions - and that is on their side! Yes, my life is worth nothing compared to that of a greater role, I'd gladly be killed of if that guaranteed a vigilante was saved. Now it is only a potential vigilante, but that is enough for me. The death of a townsfolk is nothing.
UyOwned
11-30-2005, 07:30 PM
... vigilante? Please elaborate. I'm inclined to trust you if you provide a convincing explanation of your role. Simply stating "I'm opposite of the mafia" is pretty vague.
My vote stands until you can convince me that your role is indeed important to the town.
Æther Reaper
11-30-2005, 07:35 PM
Vigilantes work for the town. They perform the same task that the mafia do at night: kill someone. However, I can only do that on even nights. Hence, I have yet to kill anyone. Also, if I try to kill anyone with ambush, I will die. I presume those guys are townies. I found a person without ambush, but I don't think I will kill them tonight. If I guess wrong, I might kill someone important (doctor or cop, which I doubt would have ambush due to power concerns). So anyway, that is me.
Æther Reaper
11-30-2005, 07:39 PM
I forgot to say this: everyone odd night I get to check for ambush status.
Yawgmoth
11-30-2005, 07:49 PM
Well, I advise you to kill tonight if you make it, because you will most likely be a major mafia target now.
UnknownKnowned
11-30-2005, 07:51 PM
sounds a little too supsious still, my vote stands
Æther Reaper
11-30-2005, 08:00 PM
Direct from mafiascum:
Vigilante - Each night, the Vigilante may kill another player (by sending their name to the Moderator). The Vigilante is on the Town's side.
That is my roll adapted to Celexia. If you lynch me, you will lose a valuable tool against mafia. You don't have to assemble a bandwagon if you let me live. I will take out the mafia and save the town. However, it is ultimately your choice. I suggest you choose which you feel is the correct choice.
Also note, while you guys are all focused on me, you didn't notice Lioden_56's vote. He had no reasons. It was just a vote. He is bandwagoning pure and simple, not even trying to back up his opinion at all.
FoS: Lionden_56
I suggest you carefully consider this situation. Don't make rash decision because you think you have a member of the mafia (me) in your grasps.
UyOwned
11-30-2005, 08:11 PM
@AEther Reaper: sounds reasonable.
unvote: aether reaper
I know this day will take a while, but we should make a smart decision about this. Personally I believe that you are a vigilante. However, a vigilante could be dangerous to the town if you off townies...
I won't make a vote yet. I need to re-ponder. Gettin a mafia today would sure be nice! We don't want to be hasty.
Streetz
11-30-2005, 09:20 PM
Votes so far:
Yawgmoth - 2
stolin, yusuke
Æther Reaper - 4
boiwithteeth, Tekkactus, UnknownKnowned, lionden_56
No Lynch - 1
Ghurhgs
It takes 7 to lynch.
This day ends with or without a lynch at the end of Friday.
UnknownKnowned
11-30-2005, 10:06 PM
Unvote: Aether Reaper
i forgot one little piece of information, i think yawgie is town and if yawgies trying to save him, he must have a reason
Yusuke
11-30-2005, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by Yusuke+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Yusuke)</div><div class='quotemain'>
Originally posted by UnknownKnowned@
im siding with yawg cause i can pretty much guarantee hes town, as for me, im not so good at this game either, its kinda my first time to play other than the reg mafia going on at the moment
really.... how DO you know XD[/b]
<!--QuoteBegin-UnknownKnowned
Unvote: Aether Reaper
i forgot one little piece of information, i think yawgie is town and if yawgies trying to save him, he must have a reason[/quote]
you never did answer... how CAN you guarantee that yawgie is town?
im not sure i wanna unvote yet. i fyou can bring up some evidence that will sway me, then i'll unvote.
UyOwned
12-01-2005, 09:36 AM
@Unknownknowned: Such a bold assertion that one is town implies you have extra knowledge or you are lying. To me this signifies cop or scum. If you are cop you probably woudn't want to jeapordize your life by asserting information that would make you a mafia target. If you were cop, I would think you would want to keep your mouth shut until you discovered a mafia member. Therefore, by process of elimination:
vote: unknownknowned
Yawgmoth
12-01-2005, 10:03 AM
Is faith really that hard? There is no proof whatsoever for my or anyone elses innocence. The only thing we have to go on here are the posts (re-read them over and over again!) and logic, possibly instinct.
I can not guarante that the Reaper is a vigilante, nor can he himself unless he dies. If his claim is false, then... Well, then I don't really know... A leap of faith it is, but I would recommend all of you to make up your own minds on this matter. (which is kind of obvious but still)
And another thing, shouldn't we be very suspicous of the more inactive posters?
Yusuke
12-01-2005, 01:52 PM
why, is inactivity a sign of scummynes? sometimes people have nothing to say.
anyways.... i think uyowned brings up some good points... so ill Unvote: Yawgmoth, but i still need to decide who to vote for
Yawgmoth
12-01-2005, 02:27 PM
Because if the mafia stay silent we have no clues whatsoever who they are. It should be somewhat of a valid tactic to stay in the background and pick us of one by one.
Maleficent
12-01-2005, 02:48 PM
@Yawgmoth, that's true but the mafia could just as easily pretend to be town and our only chance then is getting lucky or them slipping up somehow. Also inactive people might just not be able to get online that often, stuff happens.
Streetz
12-01-2005, 05:26 PM
Votes so far:
Yawgmoth - 1
stolin
Æther Reaper - 3
boiwithteeth, Tekkactus, lionden_56
unknownknowned - 1
UyOwned
No Lynch - 1
Ghurhgs
It takes 7 to lynch.
[b]This day ends with or without a lynch at the end of Friday.
Yawgmoth
12-01-2005, 05:42 PM
What happens at the end of friday if no one is lynched?
stolin
12-01-2005, 06:19 PM
the day keeps going until someone gets lynched.
Unvote: Yawgmoth
Vote: Aether Reaper
he has been spinning this group since the beginning. my votes have been because of his logic...
Æther Reaper
12-01-2005, 06:29 PM
So, you really want to risk killing a key member of the town? If you are wrong, which you will be, you will be suspected. I am a very key player here. I am the only townie with an ability to be forced out in the open. I thought you guys would at least keep me alive for one day. Right now, I ask that you trust me. If I fail in my duties as a vigilante, I will personally lead a bandwagon to lynch me tomorrow. I beg, plead, and ask that you allow me to stay alive. You will not regret it.
Tekkactus
12-01-2005, 06:29 PM
My vote stands. Æther has been trying to push people one way or another with his little "You'll be saaaawweee..." bit the entire time. I'ma sick of it, and I've only been in the game for 46 hours!
stolin
12-01-2005, 06:31 PM
i agree with tekk.
And as you have said time and time againthat when its night, you will be killed by the mafia, but it hasn't become night because everyones votes are shifting.
you give evidence for yawg, ppl vote yawg, i think some of are starting to see your mafianess showing a bit...
Yawgmoth
12-01-2005, 06:38 PM
Yes, he will be killed at night, but he will have the chance to bring one of them down with him. And why should you vote for him because you have listened to his words? And I think giving him a chance is worth a day, are you willing to sacrifice a vigilante this early? He is worth at least two of us.
Tekkactus
12-01-2005, 06:40 PM
You're very sacrificial, Yawg. Are you honestly willing to kill yourself on a hunch and a false promise?
UnknownKnowned
12-01-2005, 06:42 PM
that was pretty much my thoughts, he spends too much time saying how much we will miss him yet theres absoultely no proof he isnt mafia
stolin
12-01-2005, 06:42 PM
Originally posted by Yawgmoth
Yes, he will be killed at night, but he will have the chance to bring one of them down with him. And why should you vote for him because you have listened to his words? And I think giving him a chance is worth a day, are you willing to sacrifice a vigilante this early? He is worth at least two of us.
this defensiveness allows me to be very suspicious.
and I know he voted for you, and then -poof- one day he says he doesn't think your mafia anymore. to keep you guys looking like your not together
Yawgmoth
12-01-2005, 06:43 PM
Yes, a townsperson in himself is worth nothing, dying to save a vigilante would be worth it. Also... I believe that they won't find me... easy prey.
And we don't know if the promise is false or not, if it's a lie - he will be lynched tomorrow.
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