What do you want to see in Powershift?

[Streetz]

As you know the design for Powershift is in progress.. and before I get into the meat of the set.. I would like to know, what specific or general cards would you like to see in it?

Don't make the card for me... just let me know if you would like to see a cycle... or a specific card type (big red creature with trample) or whatever.

I am just looking for some direction. I already have cards for the set.. I just need some cohesiveness between it and CELIXIA.

Let me know!

[Maleficent]

DRAGONS! Lots and lots of dragons. Estos dragons maybe.. merging ones :drool:

[lionden_56]

Estos dragons...that would be interesting.
How about a 1/4 estos for :2mana::u: Kamigawa reprinted it and made it a spirit to trigger spiritcraft stuff, so maybe you could reprint it as a possible merge target. Not to mention a 1/4 for 3 isn't all bad. It's pretty bad, but not all...

[Streetz]

Originally posted by lionden_56
Estos dragons...that would be interesting.
How about a 1/4 estos for :2mana::u: Kamigawa reprinted it and made it a spirit to trigger spiritcraft stuff, so maybe you could reprint it as a possible merge target. Not to mention a 1/4 for 3 isn't all bad. It's pretty bad, but not all...

I thought I had a 1/4 for 2U.

Hmm.

[lionden_56]

A list of the 1/4's in Celixia and their CC's
Empod Guard-3W
Estos Whipper-2G (maybe this is who you were thinking of...)
Kala-4U

[Streetz]

Ah yes.. a 1/4 you will see. :P

Any other requests?

[Yusuke]

a big, huge, creature that costs one with a HUGE drawback (alla phyrexian collusus)

[Streetz]

Originally posted by Yusuke
a big, huge, creature that costs one with a HUGE drawback (alla phyrexian collusus)

You are asking for something unobtainable. No version of Phryrexian Collosus will ever be printed.

:(

[Yusuke]

why? theyve done stuff like it (hunted horror anyone?)

there isnt an illusionary mask to abuse it with, so why not?

[Neuromancer]

Some decent 2-and-3 drop Mercenaries :mrgreen: .

[Egotism]

Horrors and Zombies! Some decent counter magic would also be nice.

[UyOwned]

well i thought the power level of celexia was a little weird, so I thought it'd be nice to have a little shift....

lol just kidding. Some magic directly related to estos would be cool (a la arcane, but it doesn't need its own subtype, maybe just a keyword that ties em together) and also some better mana fixing in green would help block constructed decks.

As always, some weird cool combo-enabling rares :D :D :D

[UnknownKnowned]

an ability similar to shadow? mmmm shadow...

[thegeneralpublic]

I'd like to see some cards that do things that have never been tried before. I.E., Platinum Angel, Time Stop, Doubling Cube, etc.

[Streetz]

Originally posted by thegeneralpublic
I'd like to see some cards that do things that have never been tried before. I.E., Platinum Angel, Time Stop, Doubling Cube, etc.

I think I'll start a thread about this in the custom cards forum. Good idea. I myself have no ideas just yet for this kind of card...

[Mad Mat]

Black ownage!! Make some crazy (preferably broken) black cards, that put yawgmoth's will to shame!(I mean the card obviously)

No seriously, make mono black control a decent deck in celexia.

[Glenn]

Let's see... some things I can think of...

A good finisher for a blue deck (none really avalable)
An effective, cheap black discard spell
More effecent red creatures
Orb, based cards that depend on number of orbs in play ala V. Shackles (not that but...)
Another good white removal spell

[Maleficent]

um... DRAGONS!! lol 14 cycles of dragons! ... please? You can't have Magic without dragons. Especially Estos Dragons.

Other than that hm.. how about exchange cards of some unknown sort? Kind of fits powershift and it's o so much fun. Heck you could make a mechanic out of it :D. Or an enchantment that says "Whenever a player shuffles his or her library, he or she chooses a permanent he or she controls and a permanent of the same type another player controls. Those players exchange control of those permanents". Think of the madness :shock:.

Hrm maybe more cards that shuffle things into players' libraries, like from their hands or from the stack...

oooOOOOooo more Orb stuff, those are cool. ORB DRAGONS!! k I'm done.

[TJ]

Anyone else here think that someone *points at Maleficent* has a dragon fetish? lol
I think that making black a little better, and maybe letting other colours have a chance at making their début? At the minute it seems to be all blue, or green, or blue/green lol. Giving other cards the chance to make a name for themsleves might be a good idea. Also, maybe introducing a new creature type to fill in space? Something other than Estos or the other ( :oops: can't remember lol)

[lionden_56]

I don't know if Reclaim will be continued, but if it is, a naturalize-ish effect with reclaim.

[Maleficent]

Originally posted by TJ
Anyone else here think that someone *points at Maleficent* has a dragon fetish? lol
I think that making black a little better, and maybe letting other colours have a chance at making their début? At the minute it seems to be all blue, or green, or blue/green lol. Giving other cards the chance to make a name for themsleves might be a good idea. Also, maybe introducing a new creature type to fill in space? Something other than Estos or the other ( :oops: can't remember lol)

Where do you get that idea from? :paranoid:

Oh how about a card that shuffles half of everyone's library into someone else's? Or something along those lines. That would be crazyness :shock: and DRAGONS!! ... :paranoid:

[Streetz]

Just some notes I've made:

white needs artifact removal
white needs a power booster
white needs a remove from the game black card
rain of embers like card
Sacrifice: Destroy target enchantment or artifact

[Maleficent]

Wait a tic... powershift... recursion... hm... sacrificing things to recur or give things power, and dragons of course :P

[Tekkactus]

Some black aura removal would be nice (In the vein of Despotic Scepter?)

Example:

Feed the Vortex :b:
Enchantment

:1mana:: Remove target permanent you control from the game.

[Einsteinmonkey]

I like that card Tekk. Just like Rats of Rath.

[oyzar]

there need to be more ways for green to deal with artifacts/enchantments best would be creatures ala viridian zealot/shaman. There need to be some decent lifegain/red hoser in the set so other decks can compete oh and red actually need some 1 drops, even blue got better 1 drops than red. The slight deck from just one set is better than most fullset slight decks is onloy surpassed by tempest i guess though the indisctructable guy might actualy make tempest sligh a favorable matchup for celexia sligh and tempest sligh had a full block/t2 to draw from... White needs a serious power boost as just now it got nothing. Blue basically just need more of everything as it is a good begining of a deck but no end.

[Crystal Fire Dragon]

I've always liked Drakes... They're miniature Dragons... So you can actually play them each game. . .

I would like to see control-swap a la Ray of Command, Blind with Anger, Flash Conscription, Threaten, etcetera.

Also, I really (really) liked the Enchantment-shuffle-effect cycle you had. (Contained Firebolt and such)

Milling is fun.

Something along the lines of Twincast/Fork/Mirari/Uya, Silent Prophet.

I hate White. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it.

A Psychatog type card (not as powerful, of course) would be decent. Maybe something along the power of Vampire Hounds, or Skyshroud Vampire.

Drakes are still cool.

Early Countermagic. (Force [Spike/of Will] type effects)

[EDIT] Sliv-vers... c'mon... you know you want to! Or or or! Make Estos like that. "All Estos gain Trample" How cool would that be?

[Tekkactus]

How about some Legendary Estos? Like... Generals... or something.

EDIT:: Thought about this a tad more, and came up with a decent idea. What if these Generals were formed by mashing different Estos together, like Merge, but more forced?

Example:

General Fistecuf :2mana::r::w:
Legendary Creature- Estos

When <THIS> comes into play, sacrifice a red and a white Estos. <THIS> gains all abilities the sacificed Estos had, and <THIS> has power and toughness equal to the sum of the sacrificed Estos.

Estos you control gain First Strike.

*/*

[TJ]

Thats actually a pretty good idea.

[Einsteinmonkey]

You also need "free" cards.

[Crystal Fire Dragon]

Yeah, the "free" cards from Urza's block were awesome. Although when played in numbers, they do get a little crazy.

[oyzar]

i think he ment free cards like fow and sutch not the urza lock ones, untapping lands is sooo broken,

[Einsteinmonkey]

Definitely not land untapping. But there are many ways to make a card "free" (ex. Mirrodin block way).

[Mad Mat]

Definitely not land untapping. But there are many ways to make a card "free" (ex. Mirrodin block way).
It's not like the mirrodin way is something to encourage. Well, atleast not for artifacts. Affinity for swamps however :roll: ...

[Einsteinmonkey]

Whoops, I didn't mean affinity. I meant cards like Deconstruct.

[Crystal Fire Dragon]

Yeah, in that case, I agree with Einstein. Cards like Deconstruct were always fun when drawn in duplicates. :)

[Glenn]

Every block (almost) has their own free spells (Shoals in Betrayer's, Deconctruct and affinity in Mirrodin, Line's in Guildpact [quote me on that{unless you knew also}]])

A quick idea I'll throw out there.

Sudden Gesyer
1UUU
You may shuffle a blue card into your deck instead of paying Sudden Gesyer's cost.
Return up to two target non-land permanents to their owner's hand's

Sudden Volcano
1RRR
You may shuffle a red card into your deck instead of paying Sudden Volcano's cost.
Sudden Volcano deals three damage to up to two target player's and/or creature's

just my random thoughts.

EDIT: On topic. Give us a cycle of cool guys in each color (Kami Dragon's, Pit fighter's in Outslaught, Dragons of Invasion, etc.) you know, a cool evenish cycle of five so every color has some fun

[Einsteinmonkey]

I very much like that method of 'freeness'. It gives shuffling themed decks just what is needed to work decently.

And the pit fighter cycle...consider it done :D

[Tekkactus]

Legendary Estos cycle ftw!

[Yusuke]

Legendary Estos cycle ftw!

wasnt there only one legendary estos in celixia? maybe there could be a shift in power of the estos, leaving the hive and joining their respective colored leaders? this is of course, flavor intended.

[Tekkactus]

Or the Hive exploded into five pieces.

[Crystal Fire Dragon]

Or the Hive exploded into five pieces.

I want to see Verdiestos get blown into a thousand pieces and never come back together... X_X

[oyzar]

bah more ppl aplaying that deck....... but seriously some graveyard hate or something should be in order.

[Einsteinmonkey]

bah more ppl aplaying that deck....... but seriously some graveyard hate or something should be in order.
Actually, nobody but us is...yet.

[Tekkactus]

EM Tech is like the Raffinity of Celexia. I loathe it.

[Einsteinmonkey]

ROFL It's nowhere near as broken as Raffinity. It's just good. In fact, I'm confident that I can come up with a deck that can beat it (a deck I'm in the process of building) Woooo spooky!

[Crystal Fire Dragon]

I think Red needs Shatter or Shatterstorm to deal with people who run FOUR Stasis Orbs in their decks...

CoughStrCougheetzCough

:wink:

[UnknownKnowned]

haha speaking of stasis orb, i just played glenn.. we had out 5x at one point... TARGETTING CITYYY

[oyzar]

Giving red shatter is the wrong direction to attack the problem. just give red 2 quality 1 drops and dont ban vin and we could all be happy to play red on red all day. Seriously though. THE deck(not red) is nto that strong. It is reaaaaaly slow and it dont like protection guys backed up by enchantment removal(white if built right) topple is also nice. Stasis orb is even slower than THE deck and if ppl have that influencing their games they have in my oppinion done something wrong. Red is bound to get a shatter sooner or later and that'll be the end of that. I think that both my build and ems build is bad for the current metagame and if i could change my deck i would(though prolly still the same archtype).