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Mogg
01-26-2007, 05:31 PM
Welcome to the ninth round of Five Card Blind on MDV! (I finally decided to restart the counting from when 3CB turned into this)

Planar Chaos is legal for this round and future rounds, now that it’s available on Gatherer. The following cards are temporarily unbanned:
Black Lotus
Lion’s Eye Diamond
Lotus Bloom
City of Traitors
Mishra’s Factory
Mishra’s Workshop

Lotus Bloom will actually stay off the banned list unless it is banned in one of the two regular ways. I feel like the card never got a chance.

Also, with all this acceleration available, I’m taking a rule from Death_By_Beeble’s 4CB thread and pasting it here. From the rules spoiler:
“3. You may not submit a deck that can generate infinite (an arbitrarily large amount of) mana on the first turn.”

Decklists are due to me on Friday, February 2nd at 12:00 pm EST.
The cards in my deck start with the letters B, C, P, S, V.

Good luck to all and have fun! Check out the spoiler for other information.



Rules
These are the rules for Vanishing 5 Card Blind:
Your deck is composed of 5 cards which all start in your hand.
Your library contains 0 cards and you don’t have a sideboard.
Random effects always go in your opponent's favor.
You can see your opponent's hand.
You don't lose as a result of not being able to draw a card.
You play each opponent twice; once going first and once going second.
For each win, you score 3 points.
For each draw, you score 1 point.
For each loss, you score 0 points.

Three rules restrict the kind of deck you can send. They are:
1. You may not submit a deck that can win before the opponent's first main phase.
2. You may not submit a deck that can force an opponent to lose more than one card from his hand per turn.
3. You may not submit a deck that can generate infinite (an arbitrarily large amount of) mana on the first turn.

Other than the aforementioned, everything is handled exactly like a real game of Magic.

To play, simply send me your list of five cards with a heading similar to “Vanishing 5 Card Blind Tournament”.

The "Vanishing" part is the twist. After each round, the cards in the winning deck and any cards in at least 1/3 of the decks for that round will be banned for all future rounds. The moxes and certain cycles of land will not appear on the banned list except in certain special rounds.
Winning Decks
3CB
- Round #1 [ Mogg ] Swords to Plowshares + Plains + Mishra's Factory

- Round #2 [ Pingele_Pats ] Maze of Ith + Scalding Tongs + Ancient Tomb

- Round #3 [ Pingele_Pats ] Ancient Spring + The Rack + Balance

- Round #4 [ Pingele_Pats ] Strip Mine + Æther Vial + Faceless Butcher

- Round #4 [ Mogg ] Mishra's Workshop + Steel Golem + Trinisphere

- Round #5 [ Mogg ] Wasteland + Lion's Eye Diamond + Nether Spirit

- Round #6 [ Mogg] Mox Pearl + Soldevi Sentry + Ghost Quarter

- Round #7 [ Hiakashi ] : Mox Sapphire + Ancient Den + Meddling Mage

- Round # 7 [ Pingele_Pats ] : Blinkmoth Nexus + Mox Jet + Mesmeric Fiend

- Round #8 [ Mogg ] Bayou + Blackmail + Rogue Elephant

- Round #8 [ Pingele_Pats ] Bayou + Blackmail + Rogue Elephant

- Round #9 [ Pingele_Pats ] City of Traitors + Isochron Scepter + Lightning Helix

- Round #10 [ Mogg ] (At least one card from Unglued / Unhinged) Mercadian Bazaar + Flame Fusillade + Urza's Contact Lenses

- Round #11 [ Yezzandrix ] Gemstone Mine + Restore Balance + Durkwood Baloth

- Round #12 [ Mogg ] Chain of Vapor + Keldon Halberdier + Volcanic Island
5CB
- Round #1 [ Mogg ] Channel + Darksteel Colossus + Force of Will + Hickory Woodlot + Misdirection

- Round #1 [ Pingele_Pats ] Force of Will + Echoing Truth +
Undiscovered Paradise + Yavimaya Hollow + Nezumi Shortfang

- Round #2 [ RichardMNixon ] Karakas + Leyline of Singularity + Isamaru, Hound of Konda + Savannah Lions + Mox Pearl

- Round #3 [ Pingele_Pats ] Snow-Covered Island + Mana Crypt + Show and Tell + Form of the Dragon + Feldon’s Cane

- Round #4 [ Cashew ] Mox Ruby + Mox Jet + Dark Ritual + Rift Bolt + Empty the Warrens

- Round #5 [ Mogg ] Duress + Innocent Blood + Kjeldoran Outpost + Orzhov Basilica + Scrubland

- Round #6 [ Mogg ] (No moxes) Conjurer's Bauble + Crystal Vein + Illusionary Mask + Phyrexian Dreadnought + Rishadan Port

- Round #7 [ Mogg ] (No moxes) Rite of Flame + Rite of Flame + Serra Avatar + Sneak Attack + Snow-Covered Mountain

- Round #8 [ Mogg ] Foil + Fountain of Cho + Snow-Covered Island + Windborn Muse + Voice of All
Banned List
All Ante cards
All Promo cards not available on Gatherer/Autocard
All Unglued and Unhinged Card (excluding basic land)

White
Isamaru, Hound of Konda
Savannah Lions
Serra Avatar
Swords to Plowshares
Voice of All
Windborn Muse
Blue
Chain of Vapor
Echoing Truth
Foil
Force of Will
Leyline of Singularity
Misdirection
Show and Tell
Black
Blackmail
Dark Ritual
Duress
Faceless Butcher
Innocent Blood
Mesmeric Fiend
Nether Spirit
Nezumi Shortfang
Red
Empty the Warrens
Flame Fusillade
Form of the Dragon
Keldon Halberdier
Rift Bolt
Rite of Flame
Sneak Attack
Green
Channel
Durkwood Baloth
Eladamri’s Vineyard
Rogue Elephant
Multi-Color
Lightning Helix
Meddling Mage
Artifact
Æther Vial
Conjurer's Bauble
Darksteel Colossus
Feldon’s Cane
Illusionary Mask
Isochron Scepter
Mana Crypt
Phyrexian Dreadnought
Scalding Tongs
Soldevi Sentry
Steel Golem
The Rack
Trinisphere
Land
Ancient Spring
Ancient Tomb
Blinkmoth Nexus
Crystal Vein
Gemstone Mine
Ghost Quarter
Karakas
Kjeldoran Outpost
Maze of Ith
Rishadan Port
Strip Mine
Undiscovered Paradise
Wasteland
Yavimaya Hollow
Other XCB Threads
3CB
Round 1: http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=1796
Rounds 2 and 3: http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=2084
Round 4: http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=2420
Round 5: http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=2619
Round 6: http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=2913
Round 7: http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=3330
Round 8: http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=3744
Round 9: http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=4292
Round 10: http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=4640
Round 11: http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=4919
Round 12: http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5071
Round 13: http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5335
Round 14: http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5430
Round 15: http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5508
Round 16: http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5664
Round 17: http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5761
Round 18: http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5902
4CB
Round 1: http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5596
Round 2: http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5760
Round 3: http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5901
5CB
Round 1: http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5173
Round 2: http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5280
Round 3: http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5327
Round 4: http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5511
Round 5: http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5598
Round 6: http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5683
Round 7: http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5748
Round 8: http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=5828

January Results:
1. Mogg 85% (132/156)
2. Rayden_Marz 67% (32/48)
3. guest1234 64% (54/84)
4. Cashew 63% (98/156)
5. SenorClown 46% (72/156)
6. Death_By_Beebles 44% (68/156)
7. Halinn 34% (53/156)
8. Niv-Mizzet_Rulez! 31% (48/156)
9. DarkRequiem 13% (15/120)

Mogg
01-26-2007, 05:40 PM
Current list of players (* = decklist received):

Mogg*
SenorClown*
Cashew*
Niv-Mizzet_Rulez!*
Halinn*
Death_By_Beebles*
guest1234

Cashew
01-26-2007, 06:22 PM
Hey you dirty bastard. Way to ruin my infinite parade. I'm in.

Niv-Mizzet_Rulez!
01-26-2007, 06:46 PM
I guess i'm in (even though all my deck do bad):( *falls over in despare*

edit-I think i know what your P and your B are. Don't worry i won't say a word.
edit2-Well i sent my deck which is doomed to fail in. I even named it. Its called "Why do i even bother." *takes a long walk of a short peer.*

guest1234
01-26-2007, 11:29 PM
One of the keys to this format seems to be having many ways to stop the other guys cards. Last round, foil was able to prevent Mox*, even when playing second. That kind of trick is what wins games. Decks that just try to do their own thing tend to find that thing is spoiled by a good defensive play, after which the other player wins. Maybe other strategies work too, but you must figure on others opposing you and how you can beat that.

Mogg
01-27-2007, 12:09 AM
One thing I found interesting about the moxless rounds: combo decks won. Foil lost a lot of its appeal by not being able to randomly hit moxes and win games that way. Two mana disruption was usually too slow. I think that was against my initial assumption that taking away the moxes would slow the format down.

Btw, Niv, I'm curious what you think the P is. It's not a card that's been used before for any of the XCB on this site.


Hey you dirty bastard. Way to ruin my infinite parade. I'm in.

The only reason I haven't implemented this rule in previous rounds is that it was unnessary. Someone may yet prove me wrong, but I think Black Lotus or some similar form of acceleration is needed to get a competetive deck that can reach arbitrarily large mana on turn one.

Since I've never run a Five Card Blind with Black Lotus before I decided to trust that there's a good reason for this rule.

guest1234
01-27-2007, 08:24 AM
I didn't see that. Unbanned?????!! That destroys all my deckbuilding plans! Back to the card DB then....

Death_By_Beebles
01-27-2007, 10:11 AM
I'm in!

Mogg
02-08-2007, 05:33 PM
Well, we've been without this game for a while and I want to get it going again.

Decklists are due tomorrow, 12:00 pm EST.

Once I have the results posted for that, I'll put up the next round: Time Spiral Block Constructed. You'll be able to use any card from Time Spiral or Planar Chaos, regardless of if they were previously banned. You will not be able to use any cards outside of those two sets. Additionally, The Rack is banned. Are we all in agreement that that card is just too powerful? So, if you already have a deck for this round, start thinking about that.

Mogg
02-09-2007, 11:14 PM
Wow, it's been a while. Anyway, here are the results.

1) Mogg "Breaking the Metagame, Part II / He Should Play More"
Black Lotus
City of Traitors
Powder Keg
Soldevi Digger
Voidstone Gargoyle

2) SenorClown
Thran Quarry
Stormscape Apprentice
Thallid
Disrupting Shoal
Evermind

3) Niv-Mizzet_Rulez!
Molten Firebird
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Rathi Trapper
Swamp

4) Halinn
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Yawgmoth’s Will
Hunting Pack

5) Cashew
Oboro, Palace in the Clouds
Black Lotus
Braids, Conjurer Adept
Adarkar Valkyrie
Platinum Angel

6) Death_By_Beebles
Black Lotus
Tundra
Daze
Grand Arbiter Augustin IV
Island Sanctuary

X || 1 2 3 4 5 6 Total
1 || X 6 6 6 3 6 27
2 || 0 X 6 0 6 1 13
3 || 0 0 X 0 0 3 3
4 || 0 6 6 X 3 1 16
5 || 3 0 6 3 X 3 15
6 || 0 4 3 4 3 X 14

February Standings
1. Mogg 90%
2. Halinn 53%
3. Cashew 50%
4. Death_By_Beebles 47%
5. SenorClown 43%
6. Niv-Mizzet_Rulez! 10%

So, for the most part the scores were pretty similar. I'm really not sure how much there is to say for a six person round. It makes scoring easier? Combining recursive mass destruction that can come out turn one with an evasive creature that nukes one of the opponent's cards seem to have been a good combination.

The next round will be going up soon. In case anyone's reading this who didn't play, I'd encourage you to try the next round. It uses only cards from Planar Chaos and Time Spiral, so it may be a more accessible format to the new player.

Niv-Mizzet_Rulez!
02-10-2007, 09:15 AM
*Jumps off a cliff*

Pingele_Pats
02-15-2007, 03:35 PM
Nice deck Mogg ;)
I'm in for 5CB#10!