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GRUNT
06-09-2009, 09:21 PM
Supposedly, the planes in the multiverse are all located within the Blind Eternities, the Blind Eternities themselves being a big fat nothingness of chaos (or something like that).

From what I understand, the Blind Eternities is not even akin to what we know as space (you know, where all the planets and suns and stuff are).

That said, the Magic the gathering universe still use sextants, we see meteors, all of which suggests the presence of celestial objects and therefore, the existence of space.

But if it's the Blind Eternities which connects the planes, then if people from a particular plane were to build a spaceship and fly it out, would they just never encounter another world?

Minion
06-10-2009, 08:39 AM
Maybe the planes, are the universes that characters often refer to are. And, the blind eternities is like the jumping off point for these planes.

ThunderHog
06-10-2009, 10:17 AM
I'm Magic ever decides to do a 'space themed' block or set, I'm going to go to WotC Headquarters and bomb it. That's my way of conveying my thoughts on this. :D

willl
06-10-2009, 10:28 AM
well, there are suns and stuff, but i don't know if they belong to one plane and are in the same bubble that separates the plane from the Blind Eternities.
Or really are far apart from it.

In mirrodin, the stars are just blinkmoths that fly around.

And time and space is relative. In the books, they float around in the Blind Eternities, and if they want to go to one plane they simply "float" to there (or it comes to you, same effect). It think you can't really see it as a space, more like a kind of thing where the worlds float around.

I don't think for example that you could see other planes from one plane with a telescope.

Michael_Zeora
06-10-2009, 09:32 PM
But if it's the Blind Eternities which connects the planes, then if people from a particular plane were to build a spaceship and fly it out, would they just never encounter another world?

We called it the Weatherlight and she was a plane-hopping ship powered by the energy of an entire plane collapsing on itself taking it's patron planeswalker with it (Serra).

Let me define the Blind Eternities for you to be completely clear.

the Blind Eternities is Entropy - it is PURE CHAOS and ENERGY that nothing aside from a Planeswalker could exist in for any section of time.

Space as we what we see when we look up in the sky is Completely possible to exist within a plane.

if Space doesn't exist in a plane, who says you can't move a meteor from one plane to another to have it crash into a poor SOB and have it be dealt 13 damage?

Tekkactus
06-11-2009, 12:08 AM
Keep in mind that physics themselves differ from plane to plane. Lorwyn is canon flat, for example, and I've seen people argue Kamigawa is as well. It's entirely possible that on one plane there is a bubble of space around it and others the sky is literally canvas painted black. We don't get to see a lot of those weirder planes because they're not conducive to an entire set.

:teach:

Michael_Zeora
06-11-2009, 01:03 AM
Keep in mind that physics themselves differ from plane to plane. Lorwyn is canon flat, for example, and I've seen people argue Kamigawa is as well. It's entirely possible that on one plane there is a bubble of space around it and others the sky is literally canvas painted black. We don't get to see a lot of those weirder planes because they're not conducive to an entire set.

:teach:

I thought that was obvious... I mean obviously when you start to involve magic you can throw most physics out the window, but it's completely possible that there might be a ... Space based set of MTG... I hate to think so, but it's a possible.

GRUNT
06-11-2009, 11:26 AM
We called it the Weatherlight and she was a plane-hopping ship powered by the energy of an entire plane collapsing on itself taking it's patron planeswalker with it (Serra).


I know what the Weatherlight is, buddy :P. You yourself acknowledged the point that space is SEPARATE from the Blind Eternities, so I don't see why you felt the need to bring the Weatherlight up, as I was referring to a space-faring ship, not a planes-traveling one.

So, if I were to build my hypothetical spaceship on Lorwyn and fly out of its atmosphere, I would see a flat world. Great. If I keep on flying around, would I just never encounter another actual 'planet'? That must be the case, because otherwise, if I were to planeswalk to Lorwyn, I would be presented with multiple worlds, instead of just the one we know.

Someone should twitter this to MaRo or email it to Ask Wizards :P.

Cashew
06-14-2009, 05:03 PM
I thought that was obvious... I mean obviously when you start to involve magic you can throw most physics out the window, but it's completely possible that there might be a ... Space based set of MTG... I hate to think so, but it's a possible.

Don't forget we already have Moonfolk :)

Minion
06-14-2009, 05:33 PM
And, there could be a magic counter part to the Star Gate. Who knows, maybe that could be something to explore. :P

DarkRequiem
06-14-2009, 11:18 PM
Well, Dominaria had 2 moons, right? Take 5th Ed. Bad Moon as an example. And yes, I'm aware that 1 is natural and the other wasn't (it got destroyed).
They were floating in orbit of a planet (""Song of Dominia", the prime planet of Dominaria", accordingly to Wiki) so there must be space in each plane. If that space has something other than the planet itself, it varies from plane to plane. It might even be that a plane and a planet are the same in some cases.

The way I see it, in a more scientific way, there might be multiple universes, each one of them separated from the others and with its own laws of physics and/or magic. Each universe being a unique plane of existence.
The space between each universe is what in Magic is referred to as Blind Eternities. Travel between two universes would be impossible to non-planeswalkers.