The [DeckMechs]

[Neuromancer]

Deck artificers, I salute you! Our goal is to create vicious killing machines from cards despised by netdeckers and know-it-all-Spikes-that-only-win-FNMs and crush them! Death to Timmies and bad players who think control is evil, and that Island should be banned.

No mage should be left out in the cold because he can´t get the money-rares. We,the DeckMechs will help him to find alternatives. However, we're no miracle workers, sometimes you just need those valuable pieces to make certain machines work.

The first 4 members will get the ranks of Artificer Overseer, Expert Artificer, Adept Artificer, and Deck Tinkerer.

[stolin]

Sounds like a great clan, Please post in the Clan Senate to famiiarize yourself with the other senators.

[UyOwned]

Whoa, count me in. This sounds like a sweet clan. Whenever I see a new rare that does wacky stuff I try to make a deck out of it!

Right now I'm playing with a eye of the storm + early harvest deck that can be devastatingly fast with heartbeat of spring, the best part is it plays transmute and wins with a huge Maga traitor to mortals! (since 3-costing transmuters can fetch it).

Anyway, I'm up for any challenge for this clan!

[Neuromancer]

UyOwned, you are the Artificer Overseer now. You'll have the task to recruit new members and help me keep the thread clean and tidy.

[The Roaming Gnome]

Clans that build decks to waste net-deckers? Where do I sign up? :twisted:

[Neuromancer]

Welcome in my friend! Net-decking is fine if you're playing a tournament and don´t have the time/logistics to make a rogue deck, but netdecking in casual is offensive and we the Deckmechs shall make them pay! :twisted:

[The Roaming Gnome]

So then, how do I join?

[Miraj]

Well my clan fell through so I thought I might join yours. LONG LIVE Counterspell!

[Neuromancer]

Originally posted by The Roaming Gnome
So then, how do I join?

You're already in :D .

[Neuromancer]

Okay people, the first Clan Contest has already been posted and we must win it !

We got to create a unique keyword mechanic before 9/10 and post 5 cards using it.
Get the ideas flowing!

[UyOwned]

I was thinking something that messes with the stack such as:

"When you play ~CARDNAME~ rearrange all spells on the stack."

But that might be too confusing.

Another idea is vaporize (i dunno about that name), which would be:

Vaporize X: Counter this spell. If it is countered this way, put ~CARDNAME~ into your hand instead of your graveyard.

Or another idea is gravecycling

Gravecycling X: X, Discard this card: Return another target card from your graveyard to your hand.

Or to make it interesting:

"return another card of target opponent's choice from your graveyard to your hand"

or

"search your graveyard for up to two cards. Your opponent chooses one card. Remove that card from the game and put the other card into your hand."

so kind of like a weird mini-gifts graveyard style but with RFG.

Tell me what you think!

[Tekkactus]

After much consideration, I have decided to grace your clan with my presence. Lucky kids.

[Miraj]

Nice ideas I was thinking about something such as:

Flash (X tap): Counter target spell that is the same color(s) as the mana used to activate this ability (maybe a little too powerful could go well w/ ravnica)

What do you think? I've never done this type of contest before so....I try.

[UyOwned]

I like the idea of flash. Maybe it could be a remand-like effect and return it to owner's hand instead. That would make it less powerful but really tempo-killing. Repeated countering is just too powerful though, especially on more than one card.]

So what do you think about flash? and more importantly, how do you think it would work well on a card?

[Neuromancer]

What about this:

Flash (As you play this spell, empty the stack before this spell is put on it) ?.

[Tekkactus]

I like UyOwned's idea. What if the cost weakened the creature using it, though?

Flash- Tap: Return target spell on the stack to its owners hand. [Cardname] gets -1/-1.

Or, if it was on an artifact, maybe using charge counters? *shrug*

[UyOwned]

neuromancer's idea is cool but weird, kind of like "when you play this spell, put it at the bottom of the stack, player's don't get priority until it resolves"

but that might be too much of a rules headache (it screws with SBEs). As for remand-flash i like the idea of weakening the card its as it expands design space and makes it so our cycle isn't all the same. My only worry is it might be criticized for being too close to Remand in function and thus get docked creativity points.

I wonder if there is a way to use the flash idea as it is written but with a twist so that it affects gameplay in a different way than Remand.

[Tekkactus]

What if Flash-Remand could be countered by sacrificing a permanent of the same color? Having that combined with the -1/-1 bit could make it kinda crummy though.

[Miraj]

I like the sack same color idea it could replace the mana cost or could be in addition to it. I'm glad you guys like the idea! :P

[Neuromancer]

All comments regarding our submission for the mechanic contest should be made by PM from now on, to avoid idea thievery :P

[Miraj]

Why?? If we have the original idea on the page then if there is thievery we will have proof it was our idea. But if you really want to then ok.

[Neuromancer]

Keep in mind that we´ll be brainstorming A LOT, and the very first idea could change dramatically before we submit it. And I don´t want them to see that process :P

[Miraj]

ok makes sense, and we finally have two pages!!! :D

[Tekkactus]

Slow and steady wins the race. :D

[Miraj]

The deadline is upon us we need to brainstorm fast!!

@ Neuromancer PM what version of Flash you want to use to everyone. Por favor.
@ all members of DeckMechs JUST MAKE CARDS!!

[Tekkactus]

Hey, Miraj, you're one post away from Mage status! Cog-rats!

[Miraj]

Yeah 100th post I am now a mage!!

OH!!! I PMed some ideas to you so check your box and PM me back.

[Miraj]

Excuse the double post but its for the contest (you'll forgive me):

Ilya the Channler- 2U
Creature-Wizard

Ilya the Channler comes into play with 3 divinity counters on it

Flash-Tap: Return target spell on the stack to owners hand
Remove a divinity counter from Ilya

1/2
______________________

Edit-Undo- 1UU
Instant

Flash: return target spell on the stack to owners hand

_______________________

Atlantis- 1UUUU
Legendary Enchantment

Atlantis comes into play with 1 divinity counter on it

Flash- Tap: return target spell on the stack to owners hand
Remove a divinity counter from Atlantis

1U- Tap: add a divinity counter to Atlantis

__________________________

Mindnumbing Hymn- BB3
Instant

Flash- Sacrifice X creatures. Return X target spells on the stack to their owners' hands. Then, target player discards two cards from his hand.

____________________________

Deflector Mage- 1UR
Creature- Wizard Mercenary

Flash: Sacrifice an Artifact, Return target spell on the stack to its owner's hand.

"No machine is worth more than my life!"
3/2

[Tekkactus]

Miraj, I didn't keep a copy of my ideas so could you post those, too? Thanks.

EDIT: nvm! :P

[Miraj]

Don't worry I got ya covered!! :wink:

[Neuromancer]

I like the mechanic as it is, but I'll tweak the wording a bit. I'll PM it to you.

[stolin]

[b]Notice: All clan contest entries for clan contest #1 are due today, please post your entry before 11:59 PM tonight.

[Tekkactus]

Neuro, I hope verily that you get on and post our submission before the due date, please.

[Miraj]

If no one posts the revised entries before 10:30 tonight I will post them on the clan thread myself.

[Tekkactus]

I was going to wait until 11:30. Give Neuro some leeway, I'm sure he'll come through. (I was never sent the revisions, were you?)

[Miraj]

yeah hows this.
(the wording for flash was changed)


Ilya the Channler- 2U
Creature-Wizard

Ilya the Channler comes into play with 3 divinity counters on it

Flash-Tap: Remove target spell from the stack, then return that spell's card to its owner's hand
Remove a divinity counter from Ilya

1/2
______________________

Edit-Undo- 1UU
Instant

Flash: Remove target spell from the stack, then return that spell's card to its owner's hand
_______________________

Atlantis- 1UUUU
Legendary Enchantment

Atlantis comes into play with 1 divinity counter on it

Flash- Tap: Remove target spell from the stack, then return that spell's card to its owner's hand
Remove a divinity counter from Atlantis

1U- Tap: add a divinity counter to Atlantis

__________________________

Mindnumbing Hymn- BB3
Instant

Flash- Sacrifice X creatures. Remove X target spells from the stack, then return that spell's card to its owner's hand. Then, target player discards two cards from his hand.

____________________________

Deflector Mage- 1UR
Creature- Wizard Mercenary

Flash: Sacrifice an Artifact, Remove target spell from the stack, then return that spell's card to its owner's hand.

"No machine is worth more than my life!"
3/2

[Tekkactus]

Originally posted by I kinda
Mindnumbing Hymn- BB3
Instant

Flash- Sacrifice X creatures. Return X target spells from the stack, then return that spell's card to its owner's hand. Then, target player discards two cards from his hand.


It should be Remove instead of return. Other than that it looks like we're ready to go!

[Miraj]

:oops: OOPS!!! I missed that little tid-bit.( does that have a hyphen)

[Tekkactus]

Like the banner I did?

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[Tekkactus]

In other news, which mechanic should we vote for?

Tremor= cool, but somewhat broken. Mono-color decks would get totally pounded by this.
Chaos= I don't know about you guys, but some of their submissions just say: 3 mana, pestilence for 5 to me. Which I like.

[Miraj]

I like the sig!! :D I'm not sure which to vote for I'll have to look at it a little more.

[Neuromancer]

Sorry guys, I couldn´t show up these days. I'm having problems with my ISP, so I can visit the forums only when I'm at college or at some friend's house...

[Neuromancer]

Ok,now that we finished with the clan contest, we should start our clan activities!

[size=18]CRAP RARE CHALLENGE #1

Let's build a deck around Mist of Stagnation... it must be Legacy legal and on a reasonable budget.

I'll post a deck fragment:

4x Mist of Stagnation
4x Scrabbling Claws
3x Tormod's Crypt

[Tekkactus]

The Empty the Catacombs + Blood Oath combo would work well in this deck. If you want bonus points, follow up Mist of Stagnation with One With Nothing. :mrgreen:

[stolin]

[b]Please submit your clan votes for the winner of clan contest #1 asap

[Neuromancer]

Ok people, we must cast our vote for the winner of the clan contest. I'd vote for the Forum Wizard's mechanic (assuming we can´t vote for our own mechanic :P ). What do you guys think?

[Miraj]

Ok sure that works for me.

[Tekkactus]

I personally like Hordes' mechanic more, but appearently I'm outnumbered. Go for it.

[UyOwned]

chaos is cool but a little imbalanced, just because even though its supposed to be a drawback its also added versatility to a card. I like the ability a lot for that reason, but I think a few of these cards are a little overpowered. But I may be wrong, sacrificing permanents could be too big of a drawback to say these cards are worth actually playing.

But still, the 1RR chaos 4 of 5 is like a better flamebreak...

anyway, tremor is a solid, simple ability, but it doesn't inspire too much creativity, just mono-color beatdown that pretty much screws over any other color. These cards work as good finishers, but a little less than efficient bodies.

overall, while i like both of these mechanics, the one that gets my deck-building gears spinning is chaos, so that's where my vote is going.

[Tekkactus]

That makes 2 for Chaos and 2 for Tremor. Uh oh, Gnome had better get on soon and vote!

[Neuromancer]

Um... Gnome hasn´t showed up in the forum for quite some time, and our vote is needed ASAP. What shall we do?

[Tekkactus]

You're the leader: It falls on you.

[Neuromancer]

Um, I guess that I'll post my vote and be done with it.

[Neuromancer]

Yay! We've won the contest!

[Tekkactus]

We're just too darn good. :wink:

[Miraj]

:agree: I knew I picked right when I joined this clan!! :D

[Neuromancer]

Ok people, the second contest has already been posted! Anyone here with mad skillz at graphic design?

[Tekkactus]

I can, verily so! Leave it to me boys, this one's in the bag.

[Miraj]

I dont have any software and I dont have access to any so.... I wont be able to help that much except with ideas. It should be fun though!!

[Neuromancer]

I'm fluent with PSP... but I know **** about graphic design. But I guess that with Tekkactus' expertise and Miraj's ideas should suffice. I'll make some first drafts so you guys can get an starting point.

[Neuromancer]

I see that no one has taken interest in the Crap Rare Challenge #1. Where's the spirit of our clan? :evil:

[The Roaming Gnome]

Sorry I have not been here in a while had some personal things to take care of :alright: .

[Tekkactus]

I posted a few ideas, waiting for some other imput.

[Neuromancer]

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/9218/emblem3zj.png (http://imageshack.us)

Here's a first draft of a clan symbol I've made.

[Tekkactus]

http://img423.imageshack.us/img423/7340/deckmechsymbol6lp.png

Here's the idea I came up with. Granted, it was done in about five minutes with MSpaint, but you get the general idea.

[Anonymous]

It's pretty sweet if you ask me. Any other ideas from the rest of the clan?

[Neuromancer]

BTW, that was me in the last post.

[The Roaming Gnome]

:? Why :?

[Neuromancer]

I don´t know, I logged in, made the post, and it appeared as Guest :shock:

[The Roaming Gnome]

Hmmm, let me guess what you were thinking at the time......WTF? Right :unibrow:

[Neuromancer]

We better get moving with the clan symbol, the deadline is this Friday :hoppingmad:

[Tekkactus]

Should I just clean my version up and hand it in? Or does someone have a better idea?

[Neuromancer]

Does anyone else have another idea? By all means, go ahead and post it. Just do it quickly. Otherwise, we shall go with Tekkactus' design.

[Neuromancer]

Tek, just clean up and flesh out your design, we're running short of time.

[Tekkactus]

Okie Dokey No Problem!

[UnknownKnowned]

hey, im new to the forums, though ive been playing magic since the good ol' rath cylce. ah, the good ol' days. i heard about your clan and how you stray from the netdecks, and i love that. all the decks i own are all my ideas that i found usefull. id love to join, where do i sign up?

[Tekkactus]

You already have! :D

(See that kids?! He's using a Ravatar! My ego is freaking HUGE right now!)

[Neuromancer]

Yup. UnknownKnowed, welcome to our clan.

[UnknownKnowned]

why thanks yall, glad to join. so how is everybody.. lol

[UnknownKnowned]

o0 and what is this contest i "hear" of? does it involve marshmellows? cause ive been known to eat plenty of those puffy delights in my day. :D

[Neuromancer]

LOL no, it's about designing a clan symbol or insignia. The winner will be featured on MDV's homepage.

And BTW, to become a full-fledged member of the Deckmechs, you must pass the following test: Build a Legacy-legal deck around Mist of Stagnation. You'll lose points if you use Withered Wretch or Tormod's Crypt in your decklist.

If we approve your creation, you'll become a member of our clan permanently.

[Tekkactus]

Now you're just messing with me Neuro. :wink:

@Unown: Also, you'll get bonus points for using One With Nothing.

You don't mind if I refer to you as a pokemon, do you? It's easier.

[UnknownKnowned]

ha, me and my pal tried using that card... why is it so pointless? one with nothing for life! lol

[Neuromancer]

You've got till Saturday at 10:30 PM to post your decklist.

@Tek: The clan contest is due tomorrow, get moving plz!

[Tekkactus]

I'll do it after I'm done working on my Chemistry project. Don't worry.

[UnknownKnowned]

where you talking to me about pokemon? o neuro, i pretty much got the lay out of my deck fin. i might show you before i submit it, in case you catch a problem or something. lol chemistry project.. so had one of those last week :lol:

[Tekkactus]

I called you Unown.

Now down to B-Z-Ness!
http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/2563/deckmechery7lo.jpg
The symbol in it's raw form. Cut-n-Pastable anywhere you wanna put it.

http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/8789/thedeckmechs8ho.jpg
The Clan Contest Submission!

[UnknownKnowned]

wow looks superb, great job :P

[Tekkactus]

You just can't beat the Beast Wars font. :P

[UnknownKnowned]

o my that is beast wars! i remember that crazy show!

[Neuromancer]

Nice job, Tek. As usual, the sheer awesomeness of the DeckMechs will manifest itself!

[UnknownKnowned]

so neuro was the deck up to par eh?

[Neuromancer]

I'll examine it further before giving my verdict, then I'll post it to see what the other clan members think.

And by the way, WTF happened to UyOwned?

[UnknownKnowned]

lol i took out those stupid one w/ for good ol frantic searches

[stolin]

[b][Clan Contest#2 submissions are due today at 11:59-stolin]

[Tthe Ashes of Babylon]

how do i join this dechmech clan......i have played magic for the past 6 years.......i helped my freinds make the "impossible" oddesy block only psychatog deck......but who cares i juss like makin new un heard of decks or usin cards ppl dont usually think of using.......if you wanna see what im talking about im me on aim (A bloody deceit)

[Neuromancer]

You have joined already by posting here. However, you must prove yourself in order to stay with us: Post a Legacy-legal deck based around Forbidden Crypt (without the obvious Donate combo), with a complete explanation on the card choices and how it plays.

We shall review your deck, and if we find it worthy, you'll be a full-fledged member of the DeckMechs.

[Pingele_Pats]

Hi all!

I would really like to join your clan since I'm also a devoted deckbuilder.
Always on the lookout to break crapcards people said it was poo.

I've read I first need to complete sort kinda deckbuildingtest to join you guys.
@Neuromancer check your email and notify me the card to break :twisted:
BRING IT ON!!!!

Anyway, I'm happy to join the clan.

Sincerely,

Pingele_Pats

[Neuromancer]

The test is to see if you'll become full-fledged members or not, by posting here you've already joined.

[UyOwned]

Sorry ive been kinda not-posting recently, got lotsa work!

Ill whip up a decklist sooner or later. (sooner).

btw, great symbol! even if we dont win this contest it still looks awesome.

[Neuromancer]

Streetz really got into it and posted not one, but THREE different clan symbols, and all of them look awesome. We've got some serious competition here, fellas.

[Streetz]

MWA HAHA

Yes you do! :P

[Neuromancer]

Ok kids, I've recieved UnknwonKnowed's application list, and it's time for you to review it:


4x polluted delta
8x swamp
8x island

4x nezumi graverobber
4x gulf squid
2x moroii
3x dimir infiltrator

3x frantic search
4x mist of stagnation
4x scrabbling claws
4x dissipate
4x cremate
4x darkblast
4x memory lapse

[stolin]

[b][Please submit your vote for the best clan entry in the Clan Contest #2 thread asap so we can move on to CC#3.thanks-stolin]

[UnknownKnowned]

lol mists of stagnation... why is that card so silly? so whats up neuro?

[Neuromancer]

I've made my revision, but I want to see what the other clan members think about the deck.

[UnknownKnowned]

someone just called my cell asking for unknownknowned lol any idea who it was?

[Miraj]

Hey we have a new clan member!! COOL!! :D

Sorry I've been away for a while I had a very very long week.

Now down to business:
-The symbol is not only wicked it is wicked SWEET!!

-The deck looks fine to me good job Unown.

and well whatever thats about it so...... YAY!!

[Pingele_Pats]

Although I'm not (jet) a fully member, I still want to make some notes on the decklist.

I really like the graverobber in the deck, it will empty your opponents graveyard AND steal his creatures he discards, since he isn't allowed to cast lots of stuff.
The bad thing is that IF the graverobber flippes, the lock will also disappear...

Frantic Search (isn't this restricted) and Darkblast are also very nifty techs. Since you can mill your library into your graveyard.

Gulf Squid is original and great. Why did you not exploit this combo by putting in f.ex. Crystal Shards and make it a re-useable theath??? the shard will fit smoothly in the deck and is a pain-in-the-ass for your opponent.


>>> the bad thing of this deck is that UnknwonKnowed does not ABUSE the mist <<<

http://mi.wizards.com/global/images/magic/..._Stagnation.jpg (http://mi.wizards.com/global/images/magic/judgment/Mist_of_Stagnation.jpg)
As you read the card it sais: "at the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player untaps a permanent for each card in his or her graveyard."
If I would make a deck around the Mist, I would go for permanents with a tapping ability. That way you can untap and tap them multiple times and shoot/ draw or whatever do thing to kill your opponent.

THE ONLY CARD unknown is using for this effect is the scrabbling claws, if this card is not in play, YOU WILL HAVE TO UNTAP OPPONENT'S PERMANENTS when you have untapped all yours (and that's the last thing you want to do, right?)

The kill is a creature that will set yourself on a clock, why would you do that? you have plenty of time to select a better killcondition. The counter-spells are carefully selected.

Decent deck. The cards are carefully selected and thought-over.
Althought I think this is not the maximum you can get out of a Mist of Stagnation.

Anyway, I'm not here to flame you away :wink:
Just giving some proper feedback. Hey we are one team you know 8)

[Neuromancer]

I'll be more stringent with my review :
The deck is severely lacking in many areas: Disruption, speed and utility

I played the deck on MWS and more often than not found myself unable to deal with certain threats after they hit the board:;any creature with protection/untargetability or just huge causes severe problems to the deck. Also, the deck has very few defenses against combo (heck, I got beaten by a Goblin Bomb/Krark's Thumb contraption), and runs redundant cards (Gulf Squid ended up being pretty worthless)

However, you do include some nifty tricks to abuse the Mist, and the deck is fairly cheap except for the fetchlands.

6/10 -> You got the minimum rating to qualify,so you're in!

[UnknownKnowned]

thanks, yeah i know about some of the things the deck lacked, but ive been really busy with school and didnt have enough time to playtest it and change it up all willy nilly. im glad to be in the clan and i look forward to it

[Neuromancer]

Pingele_Pats, you better submit your deck soon so I can review it. I'll start my exam period next week so I won´t have time to do it.

[Tekkactus]

Pringle, you can control the Graverobber's flip. He flips if you try to remove a card and cannot, not whenever you have no cards in the opponent's graveyard.

[Neuromancer]

Not really: if your opponent has only one card in his or her graveyard and you activate the Graverobber, it flips inmediately. However, if you play a Graverobber AFTER emptying your opponent´s graveyard, you can simply not use the Graverobber's ability to prevent it from flipping.

[Neuromancer]

So, the second contest it's a tie. We could have won with the Order of Yawgmoth's vote, but they didn´t cast it officially in the Clan Contest thread.

Meh, Tekkactus' signet>>>>>>>>Streetz's signets any day.

[Neuromancer]

The third clan contest has been posted, and it's about our specialty: Building decks around overlooked/crappy cards.

The buliding constraints are posted on the contest thread.


EVERYONE MUST GET HERE ASAP.

[size=18]BRAINSTORMING TIME!!!

[Tekkactus]

Originally posted by Neuromancer
So, the second contest it's a tie. We could have won with the Order of Yawgmoth's vote, but they didn´t cast it officially in the Clan Contest thread.

Meh, Tekkactus' signet>>>>>>>>Streetz's signets any day.

The letter W isn't even a Signet at all! :lol:

[Pingele_Pats]

Originally posted by Neuromancer
Pingele_Pats, you better submit your deck soon so I can review it. I'll start my exam period next week so I won´t have time to do it.

Hmm yeah, but I haven't got lots of time this week.
Tomorrow (26th) I will look for a proper decklist.

In the meanwhile check this:
http://img418.imageshack.us/img418/1279/deckmechsweb0yl.jpg

Maybe someone can use this image to make some cool clanbanner:
http://img418.imageshack.us/img418/9973/manvsmachine6wt.jpg

These pictures are for Clan "DeckMechs" only.
Using these images for other clan meanings will be severely punished...

Have fun! :wink:

[Neuromancer]

Nice images.

26th is fine for me, I'll get enough time to give it a run on MWS.

[Miraj]

nice!! I like them + the whole copyright thing totally SWEET!!


@Neuro we are soooo going to pwn this clan contest.

[Pingele_Pats]

THX!

:mrgreen: :getdown: :mrgreen:

If someone need the link:
http://img434.imageshack.us/img434/8971/de...echsweb23zt.jpg (http://img434.imageshack.us/img434/8971/deckmechsweb23zt.jpg)

...

Buttah...
...I reeeeaaallyy get some sleep now guys...
I have to get up in couple of hourzzzzz.

[Neuromancer]

Of course we'll pwn, that's what we do 8)

I'll send all members a deck concept via PM. We should keep all discussion about the contest submission to PMs or IMs.

I personally use MSN as my IM service, so any clan member that uses MSN is free to PM me so I can add him/her to my contact list.

[evilrabbitman]

im in

[Neuromancer]

So, evilrabbitman, you want to join our proud clan? You're in of course, but we have to assess your deckbuilding skills before you become a full-fledged member.

However, I'll let you in without examination till the Clan Contest ends; after that, you'll be tested just like any new member.

[Tekkactus]

I use YIM and AIM. But I'm rarely online in YIM.

[Pingele_Pats]

Neuromancer has informed me to make a deck around Swirl the Mists,
in order to become a fully member of da clan.
http://mtg.takaratoys.co.jp/img/mtg_card/Swirl_the_Mists.jpg

So here it is! Please give your oppinion.

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Swirl of Mist (U/W) V1.0
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4 Alter Reality
4 Thirst for Knowledge
4 Douse
4 Swirl of Mists
3 Llawan, Cephalid Empress

3 Seal of Cleansing
3 Order of Sacred Torch
3 Northern Paladin
3 Southern Paladin
4 Justice
2 Replenish

10 Islands
13 Plains

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for all who doesn't get the tech in the deck >> you name opponent's color and make sushi out of him

[UnknownKnowned]

i like how you added replinish, ive always enjoyed using that card, and i love the palladins ha! when was the last time you saw those used ever? 8) and the douse combo just isnt right. i mean.. your a naughty person.. lol. i like the deck, well done sir, well done :lol:

[Tekkactus]

I like this deck. At first glance I noticed it's only a hoser of monocolored decks, which sadly are in short supply nowadays.

Sea Snidd+Landwalkers wouldn't be out of context here. Or perhaps Magical Hack?

[UnknownKnowned]

whim of volrath is neater

[Pingele_Pats]

Originally posted by UnknownKnowned
whim of volrath is neater

The effect of whim of volrath does end untill end of turn.
That doesn't make sence with the locks i have puttd in.
Anyway, the whim is limitted by only changing permanents,
so you can't counter spells with the locks (Douse^& Order).

The mists and alter reality can change instant as permanents,
with effects that doesn't end untill end of turn.
Other seeming similar cards in magic doesn't do that trick.

[Pingele_Pats]

Originally posted by UnknownKnowned
...and i love the palladins ha! when was the last time you saw those used ever? 8) and the douse combo just isnt right. i mean.. your a naughty person.. lol. i like the deck, well done sir, well done :lol:

Thx!! This really works inspiring for me.
When I started to think some combo with the featering card. I Eureka-ed when I thought of "Justice". I thought this deck couldn't get any more :twisted: with that combo... But it did, sorry for those who oppose the deck.

Anyway, I have another pure EVIL deck with this card in mind with green:
REAP :unibrow:
SEEDTIME
COMPOST
NATURE'S WRATH (<-- check this out: when opponent play a permanent, he has to sacrifise 2 first... :rotf: )


Originally posted by Tekkactus
I like this deck. At first glance I noticed it's only a hoser of monocolored decks, which sadly are in short supply nowadays.

Thx, yeah the deck lacks a little bit in flexibility against multicolored deck (and colorless). You can race the colorless decks with the Seal of Cleansing and Replenishes.
To fix this problem against those decks I've put in "Distorting Lens".
This way you can outsmart you opponent and kill anything that bothers you.
(In addition, the Paladins can attack and destroy lands!!!)
Don't forget to say a little poem before you kill something: "It's red, now it's dead" (don't forget your smile) And ask about the costs of the cool (ex)card you just shot away

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Swirl of Mist (U/W) V2.0
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3 Distorting Lens

4 Alter Reality
4 Thirst for Knowledge
4 Douse
4 Swirl of Mists
3 Llawan, Cephalid Empress

3 Seal of Cleansing
3 Northern Paladin
3 Southern Paladin
4 Justice
2 Replenish

10 Islands
13 Plains

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[UyOwned]

aha! blood curdler and.... wait for it... MIST OF STAGNATION!!! w00t.

its pretty evident that blood curdler should not be used as a creature, but more as an efficient way to put cards in the 'yard. What i mean is, the point of the deck should be able to take advantage of having cards in the graveyard and not a deck that wants blood curdler to win by swinging for 2 in the air. (however, it would be cool to have a lock-style deck with blood curdler as the only win condition).

I wont say any more, the rest of this brainstorming should be done via P.M.

[Pingele_Pats]

Originally posted by UyOwned
its pretty evident that blood curdler should not be used as a creature, but more as an efficient way to put cards in the 'yard...

You are totally right, but I don't see the "efficient" part in putting cards in the graveyard. :roll: Even IF this will work, the creature will disrupt his own plan by destroying it's treshold.

- GREAT - :square:

Anyway, ABUSING the card is rather difficult. There are many cards with similar effects that are just better. We haven't got a unique ability here.
The deck should not use those similar cards, so the Blood Curdler would be clearly the "combo"-card.
Note that the deck should be:
[list]
* Deck can be all colors! So use all cards with ANY synergy with the card!
* T1.x (Invasion and earlier)
* only ONE decksubmission for the clan
[list]
@Neuromancer: please inform a deadline for each clanmember to think out a good idea. Then we can compare the decks and idea's?! I am asking this because some of you will be very busy next week. Maybe we can get gather on a chatbox?
http://www.magic-league.com/play/chatroom.php5 (keep in mind the time, f.ex. I have a +5 hour timezone with neauromancer )

[Neuromancer]

You've got till Saturday to come up with SOMETHING. Then we should meet up on MWS and playtest.

Argh... damn Yusuke, that card is outclassed by pretty much ANYTHING with the same purpose. Heck, Cephalid Vandal>>>>>>>>>>>Bloodcurdler.

[UnknownKnowned]

haha yeah, bloodcurdler is bad
i remember i told my friend he could pick one rare out of my stack without looking
and with his awesome luck he picked the curdler.. :twisted: i love giving away those, espicially when they are foil

[Tekkactus]

Oh geebus, I can't think of ANYTHING for this freaking card...

[UnknownKnowned]

it gets rid of its only good ability @_@

[Neuromancer]

Any theme in which that card could fit in has much better options available.
However, I've made a deck that uses it to fuel certain cards (of course, a Mesmeric Orb would be better, but w/e)

[evilrabbitman]

So, evilrabbitman, you want to join our proud clan? You're in of course, but we have to assess your deckbuilding skills before you become a full-fledged member.

However, I'll let you in without examination till the Clan Contest ends; after that, you'll be tested just like any new member.

ok.

[Neuromancer]

So, have you guys come up with anything yet? We should put together our ideas and playtest on MWS.

[UyOwned]

if there was a way to abuse its threshold ability that'd be leet :D

I don't like this contest because there's nothing blood curdler can do that other cards can't do better and its abilities are anti-synergy with eachother. I'd rather do a contest where are card does something unique but whatever, I'll see if there's a decklist we can whip up...

edit: A cool deck would be measure of wickedness+ blood curdler, if you give it away the first time you'll never have to worry about losing 8 life unless blooc curdler dies!

...except that would probably end up being a measure of wickedness deck more than a blood curdler deck.

edit again: pedantic learning???

[Pingele_Pats]

...except that would probably end up being a measure of wickedness deck more than a blood curdler deck.

I like the combo, and you don't have to worry about the little synergy with the Blood Curdler. As long as bloodcurdler is the only miller in your deck, the blood IS usefull.
...more see pm...

[Pingele_Pats]

:!: The deck can now be build in T1 :!: (instead of T1.x)
http://magicdeckvortex.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=425

Deckmechs, plz send in your decklists through PM or email, so we discuss.
(can't we get a securited clan-topic???)

[Neuromancer]

Guys, I've reviewed PP's submission for clan membership, and here's my verdict:
8/10, so PP is now a full member of the clan.

Explanation: The deck is solid and very focused, but lacks flexibility and a way to operate if Swirl isn´t around. Overall, a cool deck that makes effective use of the proposed card.

[Pingele_Pats]

yeah I know,
sorry for all, but my combo doesn't work without a Swirl...
@neuromancer: I think your 8/10 was meant to be like a 8/10. Anyway, I think this should be clear. It will confuse people on the forum...

:lol: :roll:

thx.

[Neuromancer]

@PP:¬¬. Whatever.

[Pingele_Pats]

:nana: :rotf:

[Neuromancer]

PP, cut it plz.

[UnknownKnowned]

nvm ^^, so when is the deck creating contest due?

[Neuromancer]

It's due on November 14.

[UnknownKnowned]

ah i see, do we have a general deck idea yet?

[Pingele_Pats]

Yup, I've made several rough original idea's. It's only a matter of gathering together as clan and discuss the decks f.ex. on MWS or MSN.

Dunno if there are more people who finished up some deck(s)?

[UyOwned]

there hasn't been much action in this thread as of late.

So anyway, i think we're on the verge of completing a deck. As a final touch though, does anyone have a really fun, wacky idea that we could throw like 1-3 copies of a card in the deck that does something cool?

like it doesn't need to be on-color, just a fun idea that would make our deck idea different and add a little flair.

btw, when can we all discuss the deck? my sn for AIM is htwu05, maybe we can determine a good time to discuss the final additions and workings to the deck

since this is our specialty as [deckmechs], there is no reason that we should not win this competition!!!

[Pingele_Pats]

:idea: I've sended everybody a PM.

Today I've installed AIM.
My sn for AIM is "PingelePats".

[stolin]

[Please post the current members of you clan on the 'Clan Roll Call' thread. thanks-stolin]

[Neuromancer]

My SN for AIM is: Neuromancer16. Keep me informed of any advancements in the development of our submission.

[Neuromancer]

Off-contest talk: Have you heard about Peasant Magic? It's an extremely fun tournament format that allows people with limited budgets to compete. It's not DCI sanctioned though :(.

[evilrabbitman]

ive heard of it but never played it tho

[UnknownKnowned]

or you could just tap 2UU: and play control magic on her :D
but your way works too.. i guess

[Neuromancer]

You can always buy singles :P.

I recieved your submission and it wasn´t satisfactory, however, I gave you another chance to send a coherent deck list, but with a -1 modifier to its qualification.

[UyOwned]

Who has the latest decklist?

Seriously guys, the deadline is approaching...

I think our deck is going to win the way its currently shaping up... very original next to the others even if it doesn't match the power level.

[UnknownKnowned]

silly people and there reanimators... everyone and their mother has a reanimator or knows someone who has at least 5 *sigh* uncreative

[UyOwned]

Anyway, we must focus on getting new, CAPABLE clan members so we can reach the magical number!

the magical number? seven?

anyway, it looks like tool's clan can't ever beat us in any constests or we'll be severely embarrassed kicking him out :D

btw, you never had me make a deck to get in the clan, would you like one?

the cc activity seems to have cooled down for now. What do you say we do something cool...

can anybody think of a deck where all 60 cards form an infinite combo? And all are needed? I understand this could be difficult, but it would be the coolest thing ever. (note: some cards can be in your graveyard at the start of the loop).

[UnknownKnowned]

can anybody think of a deck where all 60 cards form an infinite combo? And all are needed? I understand this could be difficult, but it would be the coolest thing ever. (note: some cards can be in your graveyard at the start of the loop).

haha super. a 40 something card combo.. i love it! :lol: :lol: :lol:

i think that we should try some chalenging things such as these, give the clan more pizazz and fun.. just a thought

~charles~~

[UyOwned]

we're almost at 10 pages, anyone got ideas for the new clan thread name? I nominate: "There's no counter for the [deckmechs]"

Since counterspells are awesome... and we pwn everyone.

In other news, I don't think we need a different deck for the cc, but if anyone has a sudden inspiration dont hesitate to PM the other clan members!

@ p_p, I'd like to see if the deck has made any progress since your last pm to me, if you could send me a new revised list that'd be great.

[UnknownKnowned]

quite.. 10 pages is kinda hefty.
lol yaeh thats a good name
i play this
no.. no you dont *pays one life and removes whispers of the muse from game*
lol
hax

~charles~~

[Neuromancer]

We should ask our resident Graphix Tech (aka Tekkactus) to make an spiffy clan banner with the insignia he designed, for the first page of our new thread.

[Neuromancer]

C'mon people! Our clan is stagnating!

I'll try something non-mtg related for a change: What's your favorite movie ever?

[Pingele_Pats]

What's your favorite movie ever?
Biodome? :roll:

[Tekkactus]

My all time favorite movie ever has to be... arrgh, too many. A lot of 80's comedies.

[stolin]

lol, I think its funny that now the deckmechs are turning away from magic related topics and onto diff stuff.
I wish you better luck than what we had! (we lost 2 members by not talking about magic) lol, (but not really lol)

for the record my favorite movie is The Fugitive. Its a really complex thought type of move. although I believe if Angels & Demons ever becomes a movie that it will be my favorite




@ neuro: feel free to delete this post if you find it to be offensive :wink:

[Pingele_Pats]

@ neuro: feel free to delete this post if you find it to be offensive :wink:

:ranting: :spam: :banhim: :alright: :clap:

:wink:

[Miraj]

Hmmmm....There are soooooooooooooooooo many good movies out there. I'll have to get back to you on that one. I like comedy and movies where things blow up so....I don't know movies are just cool 8) plain and simple.

[Neuromancer]

Comedy and action movies are the best. I do have an odd fascination for bio-thrillers though.

[Tekkactus]

H.R. Giger for the win!

[UnknownKnowned]

i love ALL of stanley kubriks work
-a clockwork orange
-dr strangelove
-the shining
-full metal jacket
etc etc etc..

all bruce lee movies.. WATAHHH :x
and i love comedys.. word

~charles~~

[UnknownKnowned]

reminder to self... take pic of self and post and create crazy xmas card...




look over there




*smoke bomb*
~charles~~

[UnknownKnowned]

...why does one of my posts have edits neruo *looks in his direction* i didnt edit anything at all... and those are clearly random things ive posted or PMd before lol

[UnknownKnowned]

i say deleted.

[Neuromancer]

No clue.

[Runeblade]

Hey, all, Runeblade here, creator of querky tribal decks, reviewer of Magic Art, and above all, an MTG player!

I'd like to ask to joni the Deckmechs!

[Neuromancer]

You're in!

8)