Fit the Flavor, Round 9: Get Your Discuss On

[GG Crono]

What the title says.

[MechMage]

Elistral- Your card seems overpowered.

[hamsandwich]

agreed, elistral, the way its written means you can run it in an elf deck with no negative issues...

mechmage: I love it! do you mean "emblem", though? what's an emblame?

the first card needs editing. funny idea, though.

[MechMage]

agreed, elistral, the way its written means you can run it in an elf deck with no negative issues...

mechmage: I love it! do you mean "emblem", though? what's an emblame?

the first card needs editing. funny idea, though.

Thanks. I'm just bad at spelling.

[3cheesed]

Elistral, I would edit your card to say something along the lines of play only if you control a goblin (creature?), and if you control no goblin (creature?)s, sacrifice it?

I say creature in parenthesis because it may not be necessary to have a creature, for example boggart shenanigans may keep it in play.

Edit: I love the whole "It puts the Harm in Harmless" thing. Its like a tribute to un-cards: "It puts the vortex in flavortext" "They put the Special in Special Weapons and Tactics"

[Azrael Subucni]

Edit: I love the whole "It puts the Harm in Harmless" thing. Its like a tribute to un-cards: "It puts the vortex in flavortext" "They put the Special in Special Weapons and Tactics"

Oh, thanks. I really tried to go with something simple and catchy. The last couple times, I got complaints about my flavor text choice. But I'm sure someone will still find a reason to complain. :paranoid:

On a side note, I wish I could enter this round, so I could use flavor text #1. :D

[Elistral]

to all who were concerned about my card, i just got on, realized that it was a bit overpowered as stated and i edited it. hopefully the edit will be seen as a good one. i'm still not exactly sure why i said goblins in the first place, but meh.

[hamsandwich]

elistral: so i can put your card into a sorcery deck and have three mana of any color on turn one? not to harp, i think it is a good idea, but there is no limit to what your card can do on a board without creatures. also, i thought goblins instead of creatures was good, mainly because most goblins are one toughness...

[3cheesed]

On a side note, I wish I could enter this round, so I could use flavor text #1. :D

On another side note, you can enter, you just cant be judged or win =).

Overkill the day away, Az.

[Cashew]

the first card needs editing. funny idea, though.

I think I'm gonna live it very similar to how it is now. The red version of Hex. Explicitly retarded and very unnecessary.

[GG Crono]

The deadline draws near. If you've got an idea, don't hesitate!

[final_press]

I think I'm gonna live it very similar to how it is now. The red version of Hex. Explicitly retarded and very unnecessary.

Indeed, I like it.. it reminded me of both Hex and Shivan Meteor. Both are cards I've had immense fun using, no matter how unwieldy they might be. The card fits the flavour text perfectly and humorously, just like Hex does with it's "When killing five just isn't enough."

Anyone got any last-minute criticism to throw my way? I'm fairly iffy about my card... not even sure if it's a great match for the flavour text, but only one other person had tried that text, so I wanted to give it some love.

[hamsandwich]

i redid mine a bit. my first design was not intended to piggyback cashew's, but his was much better so i shifted gears...

@ fp: to be honest i feel like mechmage really nailed that flavor. yours is kind of a stretch for me... something called "spirit of retribution" doesn't sound harmless to begin with. the ability could work if you gave it to something that begins harmless but grows dangerous. zero power alone is not enough to make me feel its harmless. its hard to explain but do you get what i mean?

[final_press]

its hard to explain but do you get what i mean?

Unfortunately yes. :(

Well, at least now I know why I don't like it... rather than just generally disliking it.

[guest1234]

Well I put a card together. I hope it's worded right.

I thought these texts were particularly hard to make a card around. I mean, once one person does exploding sheep, there's not much left is there for that text?

[final_press]

At the very least I'd suggest renaming it, as it's got the kind of name normally reserved for a legendary creature.

[CoglineErro]

@ Klassy: Remember theres a rule about mana smiles. ;-)

[GG Crono]

Today is the deadline! Participants have until midnight tonight to get any last-minute changes in.

[Cashew]

Been 5 days..results anywhere near?

[GG Crono]

Still waiting on 3cheesed's judgments. I'll send him another poke.

[Artifactor]

come on, i want to know how badly i lost this time

[Elistral]

Mean to tell me that i didn't log on for a week, and the results are still not in.....

I'm not angry just slightly depressed about the fact that i purposely didn't log on for a week so i wouldn't be ranting for the results of the contest. I did good i hope in the long run. Anyways, just thought i would pop in to see the results only to find out that again one judge hasn't given them like the last 2 contests >_> . o well, cant get everything you wish for.

[hamsandwich]

o well, cant get everything you wish for.

try wishing for less. XD

[GG Crono]

3cheesed's judgments have been received. Results to be posted later tonight or early tomorrow. Sorry for the delays.

[GG Crono]

And here they be!

GG Crono:
Flavor 1:

Cashew:

Overkill 8RRRR
Instant
Overkill deals 15 to target player with 10 life or less. The damage cannot be prevented. Overkill cannot be countered.
"Subtlety is a thing for philosophy, not combat. If you're going to kill someone, you might as well kill them a whole lot." - Kaervak the Merciless

Flavor: 10/10
Balance: 4/5
Design: 4/5
Creativity: 5/5

hamsandwich:

Sudden Massacre
1RRBB
Instant
Split Second
For each damage dealt to target player this turn, he or she loses one life.

Flavor: 8/10
Balance: 4/5
Design: 5/5
Creativity: 2/5

ThunderHog:

Army of Darkness - 3BBB
Sorcery
As an additional cost to playing Army of Darkness, remove any number of creature cards in your graveyard from the game.
Put X 1/1 black Skeleton creature tokens into play under your control where X is the total converted mana cost of the creatures cards removed from the game with Army of Darkness.

Flavor: 4/10
Balance: 5/5
Design: 4/5
Creativity: 3/5

Luthervamplord:

Name: Blessings of Krosa 1G
Type/Rarity: Instant (Uncommon)
Rules Text: Creatures you control get +1/+1 until the end of the turn.
Replicate G (When you play this spell, copy it for each time you paid its replicate cost. You may choose new targets for the copies.)

Flavor: 8/10
Balace: 3/5
Design: 5/5
Creativity: 3/5


CoglineErgo:

Into the Fryer
2RRR
Instant
~ deals damage to target player equal to the total damage dealt this turn.

Flavor: 8/10
Balance: 4/5
Fundamentals: 5/5
Creativity: 3/5

KlassyReborn:

Chilling Shriek - X(R/B)(R/B)
Sorcery
~ deals X damage to target player. That player then must sacrifice creatures so that their power adds up to X. If he/she cannot, he/she sacrifices all creatures he/she controls.

Disqualified for mana smiley use.


Flavor 2:

MechMage:


Emblem of Exploding Sheep 4R
Enchantment
Sacrifice a creature with power less than or equal to 0: CARDNAME deals 3 damage to target creature or player.

Flavor: 7/10
Balance: 3/5
Design: 2/5
Creativity: 3/5

final_press:

Spirit of Retribution 1W
Creature - Spirit
Whenever ~ blocks, it gets +X/+0 until end of turn, where X is equal to the number of attacking creatures.
0/2

Flavor: 6/10
Balance: 5/5
Design: 5/5
Creativity: 3/5

Artifactor:

Soulburn Sword 3
Artifact - Equipment (U)
Equipped creature has +2/-1 and has
Deathtouch.
Equip 3 (3: Attach to target creature you control. Equip only as a sorcery.)

Flavor: 1/10
Balance: 4/5
Design: 4/5
Creativity: 3/5

Flavor 3:

Elistral:

Goblin Bunkers
Land
(T) Add 3 mana of any color to your mana pool. You can't attack this turn if you tapped this card. If you attacked this turn, then this card deals 3 damage to you. This card doesn't untap till your next upkeep.

Flavor: 7/10
Balance: 3/5
Design: 5/5
Creativity: 3/5

Maleficent:

Ruins of the Damned 5
Artifact (R)
Whenever a creature attacks, the defending player puts X 1/1 colorless Spirit creature tokens into play where X is half that creature's power, rounded up.

Flavor: 7/10
Balance: 5/5
Design: 4/5
Creativity: 5/5

guest1234:

Brave Ogre - 1R
Creature - Ogre
~ attacks each turn if able.
~ blocks each turn if able.
2/3

Flavor: 6/10
Balance: 4/5
Design: 2/5
Creativity: 2/5

boiwithteeth:

Tyranny 2B
Enchantment
At the beginning of your upkeep, sacrifice Tyranny unless you sacrifice a creature.
If you tap a permanent for mana, it produces twice as much of that mana instead.

Flavor: 5/10
Balance: 4/5
Design: 3/5
Creativity: 3/5


Azrael:

Cashew
Overkill 8RRRR
Instant
Overkill deals 15 to target player with 10 life or less. The damage cannot be prevented. Overkill cannot be countered.
"Subtlety is a thing for philosophy, not combat. If you're going to kill someone, you might as well kill them a whole lot." - Kaervak the Merciless

Flavor: 10/10
Balance: 4/5
Design: 3/5
Creavity: 5/5
Overall: 22

This is about the sort of thing I imagined, reading the flavor text. It fits it very well, and is a decent card overall. My only problem is the design. I understand you were going for maximum flavor, but as it stands, I don't feel wizards would print this outside of an un-set.

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Elistral
Goblin Bunkers
Land
(T) Add 3 mana of any color to your mana pool. You can't attack this turn if you tapped this card. If you attacked this turn, then this card deals 3 damage to you. This card doesn't untap till your next upkeep.
"Safe... what does that mean again?" - Last words of a dieing goblin.

Flavor: 3/10
Balance: 1/5
Design: 4/5
Creavity: 4/5
Overall: 12

Wow... that's... insanely powerful. There are very few decks that would not play this. I'm also not really sure I get the flavor. Leaving the bunker seems unsafe, if the bunker's used, I guess. It just doesn't seem like a strong connection.

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MechMage
Emblem of Exploding Sheep 4r
Enchantment rare
Sacrifice a creature with power less than or equal to 0: CARDNAME deals 3 damage to target creature or player.
It puts the harm in harmless...

Flavor: 10/10
Balance: 3.5/5
Design: 3.5/5
Creavity: 4/5
Overall: 21

I wasn't sure what I had in mind when I came up with the flavor... but this looks right. Turning harmless creatures into bombs? Spiffy. My only issue is that red doesn't normally have or work with 0 power creatures, save kobolds. But the rest looks great.

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hamsandwich
Sudden Massacre
BBBB
Instant
Split Second
For each damage dealt to target player this turn, he or she loses one life.
"Subtlety is a thing for philosophy, not combat. If you're going to kill someone, you might as well kill them a whole lot."

Flavor: 6/10
Balance: 4/5
Design: 5/5
Creavity: 2/5
Overall: 17

The instant version of Final Punishment. I can't give you much for originality, but it seems appropiate. I'm not sure about the name though. A massacre, that hurts no creatures? Also, you lost a point for forgetting to attribute the quote to someone.

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Thunderhog
Army of Darkness - 3BBB
Sorcery
As an additional cost to playing Army of Darkness, remove any number of creature cards in your graveyard from the game.
Put X 1/1 black Skeleton creature tokens into play under your control where X is the total converted mana cost of the creatures cards removed from the game with Army of Darkness.
"Subtlety is a thing for philosophy, not combat. If you're going to kill someone, you might as well kill them a whole lot." - Lim-Dul, the Necromancer

Flavor: 2/10
Balance: 2/5
Design: 5/5
Creavity: 4/5
Overall: 13

Hells yeah, Bruce Campbell is awesome! Er... your card on the other hand, could use some work. Lim-Dul doesn't seem like the type to say this... and while the spell is very appropriate for him, I don't see how it fits the flavor really. Also, it's pretty damn powerful. You'll probably be making over 10 tokens every time you cast this. Or some insane number, in late gate.

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final press
Spirit of Retribution 1W
Creature - Spirit
Whenever ~ blocks, it gets +X/+0 until end of turn, where X is equal to the number of attacking creatures.
0/2
It puts the harm in harmless...

Flavor: 8/10
Balance: 5/5
Design: 4/5
Creavity: 5/5
Overall: 22

I actually like this one. A deceptively harmless-looking spirit, that gets revenge for those who are actually harmless. I can't really see any notable flaws.

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Luthervamplord
Name: Blessings of Krosa 1G
Type/Rarity: Instant (Uncommon)
Rules Text: Creatures you control get +1/+1 until the end of the turn.
Replicate G (When you play this spell, copy it for each time you paid its replicate cost. You may choose new targets for the copies.)
Flavor Text: "Subtlety is a thing for philosophy, not combat. If you're going to kill someone, you might as well kill them a whole lot." - Kamahl, Fist of Krosa

Flavor: 7.5/10
Balance: 3/5
Design: 4/5
Creavity: 5/5
Overall: 19.5

You nailed the flavor, but the card's not perfect. Replicate in the color least likely to do spell tricks, and a somewhat high power level kinda railed this one.

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Maleficient
Ruins of the Damned 5
Artifact (R)
Whenever a creature attacks, the defending player puts X 1/1 colorless Spirit creature tokens into play where X is half that creature's power, rounded up.
Safe... what does that mean again?

Flavor: 6/10
Balance: 3/5
Design: 5/5
Creavity: 5/5
Overall: 19

I know! Safe is having infinite chump blockers in a control deck, of any color. Very abuseable, but there are ways to get around it. Not bad, overall.

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CoglineErro
Into the Fryer
2RRR
Instant
~ deals damage to target player equal to the total damage dealt this turn.
"Subtlety is a thing for philosophy, not combat. If you're going to kill someone, you might as well kill them a whole lot."- Jaya Ballard, Task Mage

Flavor: 7/10
Balance: 4/5
Design: 5/5
Creavity: 1/5
Overall: 17

Whoa... like the damage, my deja vu is doubled. Is it Final Punishment day, and everyone forgot to tell me? The appropriate choice of flavor attribution saves this one a bit, but I'm afraid I still can't spare too many points. Sorry man.

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Artifactor
Soulburn Sword 3
Artifact - Equipment (U)
Equipped creature has +2/-1 and has Deathtouch.
Equip 3 (3: Attach to target creature you control. Equip only as a sorcery.)
It puts the harm in harmless...

Flavor: 3/10
Balance: 5/5
Design: 3.5/5
Creavity: 5/5
Overall: 16.5

o.0... um... wouldn't this kill most harmless creatures instantly? Just sayin'.

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guest1234
Brave Ogre - 1R
Creature - Ogre
~ attacks each turn if able.
~ blocks each turn if able.
Safe.... what does that mean again?
2/3

Flavor: 7/10
Balance: 5/5
Design: 4/5
Creavity: 3/5
Overall: 19

Interesting. Though I'm not fully sure what angle you're getting at with this. I presume the ogre knows no safety, but that doesn't necessarily make it brave, or vice versa. Still, not a bad card, overall.

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Boiwithteeth
Tyranny 2B
Enchantment
At the beginning of your upkeep, sacrifice Tyranny unless you sacrifice a creature.
If you tap a permanent for mana, it produces twice as much of that mana instead.
Safe... what does that mean again?

Flavor: 10/10
Balance: 5/5
Design: 2.5/5
Creavity: 5/5
Overall: 22.5

Wow... just when I was thinking this flavor text was unbreakable, someone blows me away. If this was part green, it'd be perfect. As it stands, it loses some design. But still, I really like it.

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KlassyReborn
Chilling Shriek -
Sorcery
~ deals X damage to target player. That player then must sacrifice creatures so that their power adds up to X. If he/she cannot, he/she sacrifices all creatures he/she controls.
"Subtlety is a thing for philosophy, not combat. If you're going to kill someone, you might as well kill them a whole lot." - Braids, Cabal Minion

Flavor: 0/10
Balance: 0/5
Design: 0/5
Creavity: 0/5
Overall: 0

Sorry Klassy. The rules were clear about using mana symbols. Always have been.

3cheesed:


Overkill 8RRRR
Instant
Overkill deals 15 to target player with 10 life or less. The damage cannot be prevented. Overkill cannot be countered.
"Subtlety is a thing for philosophy, not combat. If you're going to kill someone, you might as well kill them a whole lot." - Kaervak the Merciless

10/10 pts - Flavor
4/5 pts - Card Balance
5/5 pts - Design Fundamentals
5/5 pts - Creativity

Goblin Bunkers
Land
(T) Add 3 mana of any color to your mana pool. You can't attack this turn if you tapped this card. If you attacked this turn, then this card deals 3 damage to you. This card doesn't untap till your next upkeep.
"Safe... what does that mean again?" - Last words of a dieing goblin.

5/10 pts - Flavor
3/5 pts - Card Balance
2/5 pts - Design Fundamentals
3/5 pts - Creativity

Flavour #2

Emblem of Exploding Sheep 4r
Enchantment rare
Sacrifice a creature with power less than or equal to 0: CARDNAME deals 3 damage to target creature or player.
It puts the harm in harmless...

10/10 pts - Flavor
4/5 pts - Card Balance
5/5 pts - Design Fundamentals
5/5 pts - Creativity

Sudden Massacre
1RRBB
Instant
Split Second
For each damage dealt to target player this turn, he or she loses one life.
"Subtlety is a thing for philosophy, not combat. If you're going to kill someone, you might as well kill them a whole lot."

9/10 pts - Flavor
3/5 pts - Card Balance
5/5 pts - Design Fundamentals
4/5 pts - Creativity

Army of Darkness - 3BBB
Sorcery
As an additional cost to playing Army of Darkness, remove any number of creature cards in your graveyard from the game.
Put X 1/1 black Skeleton creature tokens into play under your control where X is the total converted mana cost of the creatures cards removed from the game with Army of Darkness.
"Subtlety is a thing for philosophy, not combat. If you're going to kill someone, you might as well kill them a whole lot." - Lim-Dul, the Necromancer

6/10 pts - Flavor
3/5 pts - Card Balance
4/5 pts - Design Fundamentals
5/5 pts - Creativity

Spirit of Retribution 1W
Creature - Spirit
Whenever ~ blocks, it gets +X/+0 until end of turn, where X is equal to the number of attacking creatures.
0/2
It puts the harm in harmless...

9/10 pts - Flavor
4/5 pts - Card Balance
5/5 pts - Design Fundamentals
5/5 pts - Creativity

Name: Blessings of Krosa 1G
Type/Rarity: Instant (Uncommon)
Rules Text: Creatures you control get +1/+1 until the end of the turn.
Replicate G (When you play this spell, copy it for each time you paid its replicate cost. You may choose new targets for the copies.)
Flavor Text: "Subtlety is a thing for philosophy, not combat. If you're going to kill someone, you might as well kill them a whole lot." - Kamahl, Fist of Krosa

10/10 pts - Flavor
4/5 pts - Card Balance
5/5 pts - Design Fundamentals
4/5 pts - Creativity

Ruins of the Damned 5
Artifact (R)
Whenever a creature attacks, the defending player puts X 1/1 colorless Spirit creature tokens into play where X is half that creature's power, rounded up.
Safe... what does that mean again?

6/10 pts - Flavor
2/5 pts - Card Balance
4/5 pts - Design Fundamentals
5/5 pts - Creativity

Into the Fryer
2RRR
Instant
~ deals damage to target player equal to the total damage dealt this turn.
"Subtlety is a thing for philosophy, not combat. If you're going to kill someone, you might as well kill them a whole lot."- Jaya Ballard, Task Mage

9/10 pts - Flavor
4/5 pts - Card Balance
4/5 pts - Design Fundamentals
4/5 pts - Creativity

Soulburn Sword 3
Artifact - Equipment (U)
Equipped creature has +2/-1 and has
Deathtouch.
Equip 3 (3: Attach to target creature you control. Equip only as a sorcery.)
It puts the harm in harmless...

5/10 pts - Flavor
4/5 pts - Card Balance
5/5 pts - Design Fundamentals
4/5 pts - Creativity

Brave Ogre - 1R
Creature - Ogre
~ attacks each turn if able.
~ blocks each turn if able.
Safe.... what does that mean again?
2/3

7/10 pts - Flavor
5/5 pts - Card Balance
4/5 pts - Design Fundamentals
5/5 pts - Creativity

Tyranny 2B
Enchantment
At the beginning of your upkeep, sacrifice Tyranny unless you sacrifice a creature.
If you tap a permanent for mana, it produces twice as much of that mana instead.
Safe... what does that mean again?

9/10 pts - Flavor
4/5 pts - Card Balance
4/5 pts - Design Fundamentals
5/5 pts - Creativity

Chilling Shriek - X B/R B/R
Sorcery
~ deals X damage to target player. That player then must sacrifice creatures so that their power adds up to X. If he/she cannot, he/she sacrifices all creatures he/she controls.
"Subtlety is a thing for philosophy, not combat. If you're going to kill someone, you might as well kill them a whole lot." - Braids, Cabal Minion

(Note by GG Crono- Disqualified for mana smiley use.)


And the final rankings are!

Cashew: 69
Elistral: 43
Mechmage: 60
Hamsandwich: 57
Thunderhog: 46
final_press: 64
Luthervamplord: 62.5
CoglineErgo: 58
Artifactor: 46.5
guest1234: 54
Boiwithteeth: 59.5
KlassyReborn: Disqualified

A winner is:

1st Place: Cashew (69 points)
2nd Place: Final_Press (64 points)
3nd Place: Luthervamplord (62.5 points)

Honorable Mention: MechMage (Because his card was just neat.)

Congraturation! You're Winner! See You Next Game! Fight! MDV! For Everlasting Peace!

[hamsandwich]

wow, i thought mechmage had this one in the bag...

[CoglineErro]

I tried to warn you klassy...I really did. Yeah mine wasn't creative in the ability, it was all about the flavor in this particular fit the flavor contest. Gratz Cashew...

[Cashew]

I'll be out of town until next week. If the other two winners want to send me their stuff, this contest will resume hopefully on Sunday night sometime. Happy Turkey Day!

[ThunderHog]

Cashew seriously won with that... ... Wow.

[GG Crono]

Hey, argue that it didn't fall under the category of "killing someone a whole lot". I dare you. And flavor is what really counts here. :D

[Cashew]

Cashew seriously won with that... ... Wow.
Haha yeah, refused to change my concept and somehow won with good design and a ridiculous card. I thought the damage cannot be prevented and can't be countered would be horrendous enough so that I wouldnt' win but do well though. Oh well!

Here's some other versions I almost went with:

Overkill 7RRRRR
Instant
Overkill deals 20 damage to target player with 5 life or less. Overkill can't be countered by spells or abilities and the damage can't be prevented

Overkill 15RR
Instant
Overkill deals 20 damage to target player. If that player has 2 life or less, Overkill costs 15 less to play.

Overkill RRRR
Sorcery
Kicker 10
Overkill deals 10 damage to you.
If you paid the kicker cost, Overkill deals 10 damage to each player and every creature instead.

The less ridiculous version:

Overkill
Sorcery
Overkill deals 20 damage to target player.
Suspend 20 - R
Whenever a sorcery or instant you control deals damage to a creature, you may remove a time counter from Overkill for each damage over lethal damage.

[final_press]

Cashew: 69
Elistral: 43
Mechmage: 60
Hamsandwich: 57
Thunderhog: 46
final_press: 64
Luthervamplord: 62.5
CoglineErgo: 58
Artifactor: 46.5
guest1234: 54
Boiwithteeth: 59.5
KlassyReborn: Disqualified

A winner is:

1st Place: Cashew (69 points)
2nd Place: Luthervamplord (62.5 points)
3rd Place: MechMage (60 points)

I got 64 points and missed out on a podium finish? :p

[GG Crono]

...oops. >_>

No excuses beyond "I'm a dumbass and misread my own damn score sheet". A thousand apologies, my good FP. I'll edit the results immediately.

[final_press]

No excuses beyond "I'm a dumbass and misread my own damn score sheet". A thousand apologies, my good FP. I'll edit the results immediately.

No worries, it happens. :D

Ahh nuts... that means I'm gonna need to come up with some flavour text :P

[guest1234]

:8mana:th!!! :cleo:

Well, it's not a win but I still like the card. And I definitely agree with Cashew's score. Mr. C really nailed the flavour with a funny cool card.

[Artifactor]

my card sucked, i'll try harder next time

[MechMage]

I got 64 points and missed out on a podium finish? :p

Curse your basic ability to notice that one number is greater than another number! You've ruin stage 3 of the master plan! Now I shall have to retire to my underground lair and plot my revenge!

[final_press]

Mwah-ha-haa, try as you might.. I will always be here to numerically thwart you. No matter how diabolical the scheme, maths and science will always make learning fun.. and that's what makes real winners.[/GI Joe, now we know!] :p

[CoglineErro]

[/And knowings half the battle!] Don't worry MechMage, if someone drops out in the top three, you'll win by default. And take it from me, that's just as sweet as winning via evil plot!

[Cashew]

Just waiting on one judge's flavor text before the go ahead. Normal round next round.