∞CB - Special Round!

[Maleficent]

∞CB Common Rules
Your deck is composed of X cards which all start in your hand.
Your library contains 0 cards.
Random effects always go in their owner's opponent's favor, as do awkward Un-effects that can't be played out as XCB is played.
You can see your opponent's hand, so you make the best possible play.
You don't lose as a result of not being able to draw a card.
You play each opponent twice; once going first and once going second.

For each win, you score 3 points.
For each draw, you score 1 point.
For each loss, you score 0 points.

You CAN submit a deck that can win before the opponent's first main phase.
You CAN submit a deck that can force an opponent to lose two or more cards from his or her hand in a single turn.

Besides that the game works the same as a normal game of magic.
You may only play one land per turn unless a card specifically alters that.
You must have the mana to be able to play cards unless otherwise able to do so.
You and your opponent each begin with 20 life.

Rules for this ∞CB Round Specifically:
1) Deck size is determined by whichever player has the first turn each game. If Player Noonya uses a 2CB deck and Player Bidness uses a 33CB, the first round will be played as if it was 2CB and the second round will be played as 33CB. This gives advantages and disadvantages to all XCB sizes.

2) You may only play up to 4 of every Magic card in existence, as per normal Magic rules. Not quite infinity, but close enough.

3) Send me your lists in order of how you want them played. Whenever you are limited your cards will be chosen in the exact order so if you send me:
1 - Black Lotus
2 - Show and Tell
3 - Form of the Dragon
4 - Mishra's Factory

If you face a player with a 3CB deck one game you won't be able to use the 4th card - Mishra's Factory.

4) This is a Special Round and has no effect whatsoever on the continuing XCB, the next of which will be Round 11 with the same cards banned regardless of who wins this round.

Banned List
Nothing. Un-cards, promotional cards, and ante cards are all allowed (though ante obviously won't do anything).

Keep in mind that if a card specifies that you sing and dance or something equally ridiculous, it will be treated like a random effect and will work in your opponent's favor.

Sign up: You have until September 21st to send in your decks.

BIG HINT: Playing a one- or two-card deck may give you some easy wins, but it's obviously to your advantage to play every single card there is (making sure you can deal with the smaller ones too). Therefore, smaller decks will be awarded extra points as follows:

1-5 cards: 15 points
6-20 cards: 10 points
21-50 cards: 5 points
51+ cards: 0 points

(Seeing how there are over 15000 cards, each of which you can have up to 4 of, + unlimited basic lands... yeah. :))

Now then, on with the show!

Participants:
1. Maleficent - TTEFCSUASPMSCSFFSAPMCUSMCFCSUASMSAPCSFMFSCSMPSUSC (49 cards) - Simplicity Demand
2. Ryuzaki - "Oh Shi-"
3. ThunderHog - No. Nope. Nut-uh. You wish. NO!! Maybe... on second thought, no.
4. Cashew - Your Turn Would Have Sucked Anyway
5. hells33kerd - Bastard
6. FrycHiKn - Mambo Nº5!
7. final_press - Stoppit & Tidyup
8. pickles - Pickles Revenge
9. guest1234 - The irresistable flaming pudding deck
10. tfp - Cashew is soooo right!

[Ryuzaki]

oh OH

Ryu's in.

[ThunderHog]

Mwhahahaha!!!!! Mal, you're gonna like my deck...

[Cashew]

If my deck gets in. It's so the winner. I had to ask myself how can I beat other big decks on their first turn. I got that answer. So win.

[Ryuzaki]

Neither your deck nor your atrocious grammar have a chance against my deck.

It is epic-incarnate, and the best ∞CB deck ever.

[Maleficent]

Indeed I do TH, but you may not know exactly why. ;)

[ThunderHog]

So, who's NOT using Sudden Impact... ME!!! That's who. XD

[Ryuzaki]

Whoever tries to calculate this round will have their brain seizure into a kinipshin fit.

First the counter-wars, then the burns, then the creatures and lands...

There will be blood...

[Maleficent]

Or Spiraling Embers perhaps? XD "I HAVE ULTIMATE WISDOM!!!" "Discard your hand!" "Oh noez...."

@Ryu, good thing I'm already crazy. ;)

[Ryuzaki]

Yep...I am seriously interested in the other entries though, none as original as mine...but that's okay..

[ThunderHog]

I almost wanna add One With Nothing to my deck just to prevent those strategies.

[Maleficent]

OWN! Don't forget to throw in a Mindslaver and Isochron Scepter and Donate... might as well. :P

@Ryu, They try. :P

[Ryuzaki]

Since YWN isn't here, I'll do it for him.

Scepter says instants of 2CMC or less. Donate is 3CMC.

It's okay Mal, even the greatest make mistakes. Plato had a bad haircut, einstein forgot his pants, and Mal well, you know. :D

[Cashew]

My deck was so good. Male declared it illegal. Cited some obscure rule that no one pays attention to.

[Maleficent]

Scepter says instants of 2CMC or less. Donate is 3CMC.

YOU'RE NOT DOING IT RIGHT. Put OWN on the Scepter, Donate the Scepter, Mindslave the opponent and make them discard their hand. ;)

[Ryuzaki]

Let me guess : 2) You may only play up to 4 of every Magic card in existence, as per normal Magic rules. Not quite infinity, but close enough.

We can't all be winners Cash. :D

[boiwithteeth]

I will play!

[hells33kerd]

well now that you put those points like that i may have to debate about the size of the deck with my self for a while:o

[ThunderHog]

Any deck that goes first against me that has LESS than 9 cards is mostly likely going to be a draw - however I do have a chance of winning. To go against me, you're gonna need a lot of cards...

[Maleficent]

well now that you put those points like that i may have to debate about the size of the deck with my self for a while:o

Makes meta a whole new monster as well. ;) Wish I had more time to think about it, but oh well. :(

[hells33kerd]

i'm in

[FrycHiKn]

deck sent :E

[Maleficent]

Any more takers? Step right up, ladies and gents, this type of round may not happen again! Anything goes! (Well almost anything. :P)

[final_press]

I'm in... bring on the dismal failure! :D

[guest1234]

You can play all cards? How in the world will you ever figure out the matchups????!!!! I'll have to think about this, but if I don't get back to you, I'll play 4x every single card, and put my decklist in alphabetical order. :cool:

[pickles]

I am absolutely terrible at this, but I am in.

Deck Sent.

[guest1234]

Important question: Do you discard down to 7 at EOT?

[Ryuzaki]

All normal magic rules are in effect aside from what's changed for the special round.

Short answer: Yes, you do.

[Maleficent]

You can play all cards? How in the world will you ever figure out the matchups????!!!! I'll have to think about this, but if I don't get back to you, I'll play 4x every single card, and put my decklist in alphabetical order.

1. Yes.
2. While it may drive others insane, I am already insane, thus I have an advantage. Also, carefully.
3. You could, but firstly you have to remember that if anyone plays a smaller deck than you, you'll be screwed when they go first, and secondly that you won't get any bonus points. Thirdly:


Important question: Do you discard down to 7 at EOT?

You will, like Ryu said, unless you have Spellbook or something - and it's not gotten rid of.

And finally, just for that, I may have to tack on an ******* Tax of -X points, where X is equal to the number of cards you have -50. (Ok, I probably won't, but still. :P)

TWO MORE DAYS PEOPLE! Here's another (albiet sadistic) way of looking at it: While you may not like the idea of the round itself, you will just by joining with even a small deck make my life that much more hellish, as well as everyone else who has to wait for their scores. So there is that. :)

[guest1234]

And finally, just for that, I may have to tack on an ******* Tax of -X points, where X is equal to the number of cards you have -50. (Ok, I probably won't, but still. :P)

Heehee, I was hoping for a reaction ;)
But I was just jiving with you. Anywho, I'm almost done reading through the list of legal cards and removing all the sucky ones from my decklist. I'll have a new abbreviated list soon. XD

Edit: Okay Flaming Pudding deck sent. 19 cards!

[tfp]

Ahhhhhh I missed the deadline O_O
Deck sent - I hope Male has a good day ;)

[sethrpg]

NOO I LOVE COMBOS.... da*n deadline.

[Maleficent]

@sethrpg, if you're quick, you can still get in. Also blokhed may be in... he asked a question that I wasn't around to answer. For everyone else, tough luck, deadline's up! XD

[guest1234]

So Mal, have you gone insane trying to untangle the matchups yet? If not, take your time :p

[FrycHiKn]

Are you ready Mal?

[Maleficent]

Hells no. :P Maybe I'll get some done in the next few days. :rolleyes: No work or school then, whippee.

[FrycHiKn]

Ahoy!


Are we there yet?

[Maleficent]

More than half. And Fry, you have 36 points. XD

[Ryuzaki]

I bet I got a lot! :D


:rotf:

[final_press]

I'm willing to bet I did pretty damn awful... but I don't care (honest :()
If I do well, it will be a glorious triumph... if I do as bad as I think, then it's only a "Special Round", so it doesn't really count :P

[Maleficent]

FP's doing pretty good, and Ryu knows how awesome he's doing already, but I'm putting my money on TH. :P 5/10 games done and 35 points already... yeesh. :eek:

[Ryuzaki]

I have the best deck, obviously. :rotf:

[Maleficent]

Obviously.

[final_press]

Obviously.

Thassit? :(

And here's me getting all excited thinking the results were up. You dasher of hopes, you! :P

[Mogg]

Sorry to interrupt, but I think the down time while we wait for results to go up is the best time to make this announcement.

For those of you who can never quite get their fill of the blind format and for those of you who would just like to try another variation, to supplement the great version that Maleficent runs, I would just like to make you aware of the weekly 5CB tournaments at MTGSalvation.

5CB has run consistently, every week, for the past year. For the past couple months, we have discussed various aspects of the rules and banned list, and the current format reflects these efforts. It is, I believe, diverse and balanced.

Additionally, in an effort to explore more options for the format, another version of 5CB will begin soon, probably later this week.

Rounds usually have between 10 and 15 people. Our last round had 28, due to one member advertising the format on a number of forums. Bigger numbers are great, since they give more valid results, and since MDV players have participated in the past I was inspired to mention the format here. Information on the current round can be found here (http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=131984).

That's all.

[Cashew]

I think Male must have lost his will to live.

[ThunderHog]

Mwhahaha... Victory will once again be mine. Then again, I used pretty much THE most unfair deck I could possibly think of. Lol.

[Cashew]

I used a deck when given the proper amount of cards. Kills before either players first playable phase (Untap/Upkeep). Muahha. Main phases are for chumps.

Then I threw on as many Force of Wills, Commandeers, Redirects, and free Blue counters and free Blue fluff spells to mak those counters castable to make Male truly insane.

Still can't believe:

my 20 Simian Spirit Guide 20 Lightning Bolt deck was banished. Due to some only 4 cards each rule.

[ThunderHog]

My first 8 cards were 4x Force of Will and 4x Misdirection, my next 8 cards were 4x Unmask and 4x Sickening Shoal...

[guest1234]

Bah, counters are for chumps! Giant Slime for the win!

[Cashew]

This was my deck I think the last version I submitted haha:

1 - Elvish Spirit Guide
2 - Elvish Spirit Guide
3 - Elvish Spirit Guide
4 - Manamorphose
5 - Simian Spirit Guide
6 - Simian Spirit Guide
7 - Simian Spirit Guide
8 - Manamorphose
9 - Seething Song
10 - Seething Song
11 - Seething Song
12 - Seething Song
13 - Cabal Ritual
14 - Cabal Ritual
15 - Cabal Ritual
16 - Cabal Ritual
17 - Quicken
18 - Kaervek's Torch
19 - Force of Will
20 - Force of Will
21 - Force of Will
22 - Force of Will
23 - Disrupting Shoal
24 - Disrupting Shoal
25 - Disrupting Shoal
26 - Disrupting Shoal
27 - Misdirection
28 - Misdirection
29 - Misdirection
30 - Misdirection
31 - Commandeer
32 - Commandeer
33 - Commandeer
34 - Commandeer
35 - Counterbore (5 mana CMC fodders)
36 - Counterbore
37 - Counterbore
38 - Counterbore
39 - Gush (5 mana CMC fodders)
40 - Gush
41 - Gush
42 - Gush
43 - Leyline of the Void
44 - Leyline of Singularity

[Maleficent]

I think Male must have lost his will to live.

Long time ago, but that's irrelevant. Finally found a little time to get the harder ones done. XD

[Ryuzaki]

Cashew can't counter any of my cards. :rotf:

[Maleficent]

Ok, everyone's decks:

1. Maleficent (49, +5)
1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
2 Force of Will
1 Treetop Village
1 Eladamri's Vineyard
1 Commandeer
2 Unmask
1 Strip Mine
1 Abolish
1 Plains
1 Shining Shoal
1 Sunscour
2 Unmask
2 Force of Will
2 Commandeer
1 Abolish
1 Plains
2 Misdirection
1 Spellbook
2 Misdirection
2 Firestorm
2 Mountain
3 Strip Mine
3 Shining Shoal
3 Sunscour
1 Abolish
1 Plains
3 Spellbook
4 Contagion
2. Ryuzaki (∞, +0)
∞ Snow-Covered swamp
4 Vault of Whispers
3. ThunderHog (37, +5)
1 Force of Will
1 Misdirection
1 Dryad Arbor
1 Force of Will
1 Misdirection
1 Force of Will
1 Misdirection
1 Force of Will
1 Misdirection
1 Unmask
1 Sickening Shoal
1 Unmask
1 Sickening Shoal
1 Unmask
1 Sickening Shoal
1 Unmask
1 Sickening Shoal
1 Black Lotus
1 Leonin Squire
1 Treasure Hunter
1 Storm Entity
1 Grapeshot
1 Black Lotus
1 Leonin Squire
1 Treasure Hunter
1 Storm Entity
1 Grapeshot
1 Black Lotus
1 Leonin Squire
1 Treasure Hunter
1 Storm Entity
1 Grapeshot
1 Black Lotus
1 Leonin Squire
1 Treasure Hunter
1 Storm Entity
1 Grapeshot

4. Cashew (44, +5)
3 Elvish Spirit Guide
1 Manamorphose
3 Simian Spirit Guide
1 Manamorphose
4 Seething Song
4 Cabal Ritual
1 Quicken
1 Kaervek's Torch
4 Force of Will
4 Disrupting Shoal
4 Misdirection
4 Commandeer
4 Counterbore (5 mana CMC fodders)
4 Gush (5 mana CMC fodders)
1 Leyline of the Void
1 Leyline of Singularity
5. hells33kerd (95, +0)
1. BLACK LOTUS
2. WHEEL OF FORTUNE
3. NETHER SPIRIT
4. FORCE OF WILL
5. FORCE OF WILL
6. FORCE OF WILL
7. FORCE OF WILL
8. FOIL
9. FOIL
10. FOIL
11. FOIL
12. GEMSTONE CAVERNS
13. GEMSTONE CAVERNS
14. TRICKBIND
15. GEMSTONE CAVERNS
16. GEMSTONE CAVERNS
17. REWIND
18. REWIND
19. REWIND
20. REWIND
21. DENIED!
22. DENIED!
23. DENIED!
24. DENIED!
25. ISLAND
26. ISLAND
27. ISLAND
28. ISLAND
29. TRICKBIND
30. TRICKBIND
31. TRICKBIND
32. COMMANDEER
33. COMMANDEER
34. COMMANDEER
35. COMMANDEER
36. DISRUPTING SHOAL
37. DISRUPTING SHOAL
38. DISRUPTING SHOAL
39. DISRUPTING SHOAL
40. AMBIGUITY
41. AMBIGUITY
42. AMBIGUITY
43. AMBIGUITY
44. BATTLE OF WITS
45. BATTLE OF WITS
46. BATTLE OF WITS
47. BATTLE OF WITS
48. DECLARATION OF NAUGHT
49. DECLARATION OF NAUGHT
50. DECLARATION OF NAUGHT
51. DECLARATION OF NAUGHT
52. TAKE POSSESSION
53. TAKE POSSESSION
54. TAKE POSSESSION
55. TAKE POSSESSION
56. ANCESTRAL VISION
57. ANCESTRAL VISION
58. ANCESTRAL VISION
59. ANCESTRAL VISION
60. STIFLE
61. STIFLE
62. STIFLE
63. STIFLE
64. LEYLINE OF THE VOID
65. LEYLINE OF THE VOID
66. ANGEL’S GRACE
67. ANGEL’S GRACE
68. ANGEL’S GRACE
69. ANGEL’S GRACE
70. PACT OF NEGATION
71. PACT OF NEGATION
72. PACT OF NEGATION
73. PACT OF NEGATION
74. BLACK LOTUS
75. BLACK LOTUS
76. BLACK LOTUS
77. WHEEL OF FORTUNE
78. WHEEL OF FORTUNE
79. WHEEL OF FORTUNE
80. BASKING ROOTWALLA
81. BASKING ROOTWALLA
82. BASKING ROOTWALLA
83. BASKING ROOTWALLA
84. GRAPESHOT
85. GRAPESHOT
86. GRAPESHOT
87. GRAPESHOT
88. mox jet
89. mox jet
90. mox jet
91. mox jet
92. cabal therapy
93. cabal therapy
94. cabal therapy
95. cabal therapy
6. boiwithteeth (5, +15)
2 Black Lotus
1 Barren Glory
1 Black Lotus
1 Complicate
7. FryCHiKn (3, +15)
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mishra's Factory
1 Balance
8. final_press (18, +10)
2 Force of Will
2 Misdirection
1 Blacker Lotus
1 Darksteel Reactor
2 Force of Will
2 Mox Pearl
1 Balance
1 Pact of Negation
1 Angel's Grace
1 Pact of Negation
1 Angel's Grace
1 Pact of Negation
1 Angel's Grace
1 Pact of Negation
1 Angel's Grace
9. pickles (13, +10)
1 Black Lotus
1 Thoughtseize
1 Bitterblossom
1 Simian Spirit Guide
1 Lightning Bolt
1 Island
1 Swamp
1 Swamp
1 Island
1 Island
1 Negate
1 Counterspell
1 Fallen Angel
10. guest1234 (19, +10)
1 Gemstone Caverns
1 Plains
2 Angel's Grace
4 Simian Spirit Guide
1 Gaze of Adamaro (2RR)
1 Leyline of Lifeforce
1 Flame-kin Zealot (1WRR)
4 Elvish Spirit Guide
4 S.N.O.T. (G)
11. tfp (50, +5)
1 Strip Mine
1 Force of Will
1 Misdirection
4 Gemstone Cavern
2 Simian Spirit Guide
2 Elivsh Spirit Guide
1 Quicken
1 Channel
1 Quicken
1 Fireball
1 Commandeer
3 Force of Will
3 Misdirection
1 Foil
1 Island
1 Foil
1 Island
1 Foil
1 Island
1 Foil
1 Island
2 Commandeer
4 Denied
3 Disrupting Shoal
4 Stifle
4 Trickbind
1 Simian Spirit Guide
2 Manamorphose

[Ryuzaki]

Someone had to put the ∞ in ∞CB. :D

Most. Epic. Deck. Evar!

[Maleficent]

Note: Many games were basically counter-wars - whoever had the most counterspells won. Still, some things may be wrong, so before announcing a winner I'll let you double-check any games you wish.

And the results:

1. Mal: X+6+3+0+0+3+4+3+6+6+0 | 31+5 = 36
2. Ryu: 0+X+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0 | 0+0 = 0
3. TH: 3+6+X+0+0+6+6+3+6+3+0 | 33+5 = 38
4. Cashew: 6+6+6+X+3+3+3+3+3+0+3 | 36+5 = 41
5. hells: 6+6+6+3+X+3+6+3+6+3+6 | 48+0 = 48
6. BWT: 3+6+0+3+3+X+3+1+3+3+3 | 28+15 = 36
7. Fry: 1+6+0+3+0+3+X+1+3+3+1 | 21+15 = 36
8. fp: 3+6+3+3+3+4+4+X+6+0+3 | 36+10 = 46
9. pickles: 0+6+0+3+0+3+3+0+X+0+3 | 18+10 = 28
10. guest: 0+6+3+6+3+3+3+6+6+X+3 | 39+10 = 49
11. tfp: 6+6+6+3+0+3+4+3+3+3+X | 37+5 = 42

1. guest: 0+6+3+6+3+3+3+6+6+X+3 | 39+10 = 49
2. hells: 6+6+6+3+X+3+6+3+6+3+6 | 48+0 = 48
3. Cashew: 6+6+6+X+3+3+3+3+3+6+3 | 42+5 = 47
4. fp: 3+6+3+3+3+4+4+X+6+0+3 | 36+10 = 46
5. tfp: 6+6+6+3+0+3+4+3+3+3+X | 37+5 = 42
6. TH: 3+6+X+0+0+6+6+3+6+3+0 | 33+5 = 38
7. Mal: X+6+3+0+0+3+4+3+6+6+0 | 31+5 = 36
7. BWT: 3+6+0+3+3+X+3+1+3+3+3 | 28+15 = 36
7. Fry: 1+6+0+3+0+3+X+1+3+3+1 | 21+15 = 36
8. pickles: 0+6+0+3+0+3+3+0+X+3+3 | 21+10 = 28
9. Ryu: 0+X+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0 | 0+0 = 0

0X|01-02-03-04-05-06-07-08-09-10-11 | Total
---------------------------------------------------------------
01|0X-06-03-00-00-03-04-03-06-06-00 | 31+5 = 36
02|00-0X-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 | 0+0 = 0
03|03-06-0X-00-00-06-06-03-06-03-00 | 33+5 = 38
04|06-06-06-0X-03-03-03-03-03-00-06 | 36+5 = 41
05|06-06-06-03-0X-03-06-03-06-03-06 | 48+0 = 48
06|03-06-00-03-03-0X-03-01-03-03-03 | 28+15 = 43
07|01-06-00-03-00-03-0X-01-03-03-01 | 21+15 = 36
08|03-06-03-03-03-04-04-0X-06-00-03 | 35+10 = 46
09|00-06-00-03-00-03-03-00-0X-00-03 | 18+10 = 28
10|00-06-03-06-03-03-03-06-06-0X-03 | 39+10 = 49
11|06-06-06-03-00-03-04-03-03-03-0X | 37+5 = 42

[Maleficent]

The winner at this point would be hells33kerd, but Cashew and tfp are very very close (not sure about FP, his games were relatively easy to figure out). So I'll give ye about a week to see if I screwed up, which is pretty likely. XD The winner will be announced October 12 unless everyone's ok with the scores. Then the new round will hopefully begin. :)


Most. Epic. Deck. Evar!

No doubt. Did anyone ever get 0 points before? :eek:

[Ryuzaki]

Using the most broken card ever created!

I love it when a new kid comes in and wins. :P

[Maleficent]

Epic Fail is still Epic. ;)

[Ryuzaki]

I caused so many dead-cards, it's insane!

Ryuzaki: I play another snow-covered swamp.

Cashew: Damn! Another one?! I'll never counter anything at this rate. *Ends turn* Wait, don't I have a burn?

Ryuzaki: Oh crap, he remembered he has a burn spell. *Fakes heart attack* *


*Intentional Deathnote reference. :P

[Cashew]

Darn second!

[guest1234]

That was fun! There were some interesting matchups there. The 4x Sickening Shoal really foiled my aggro strategy well. I think I should be able to get the full 6 from pickles, but seeing how I'm nowhere near winning I wouldn't bother calculating exactly.

Thanks for your work Mal!

[Maleficent]

Don't mention it. :P I'll look at pickles vs. guest again later today.

[hells33kerd]

36+10 = 45


well first off 36+10 = 46 not 45 but the point is i forgot misdirection as another freebe ...drats

[ThunderHog]

Damn! I coulda swore I has that... Curses...

[final_press]

w00t for me! The highest placing for me yet in this game. In my face, me! How dare I doubt.... myself?! :P

[Maleficent]

well first off 36+10 = 46 not 45

Damn you and your logic. :P

@guest, going first you win, so this is for pickles going first. During pickles's upkeep you can get the Caverns into play removing the Leyline (don't need it) and cast Gaze of Adamaro on him for 13, or hold the Spirit Guides to play some creatures. Either way, pickles can Thoughtseize your Zealot, and if you don't cast Gaze the most you would be able to play threat-wise are two Spirit Guides thanks to the limit, one of which dies to Lightning Bolt. After that, pickles's Bitterblossom wins.

If you Gaze him he'd go down to 7, then Thoughtseize your Zealot and play Bitterblossom (along with an Island). You can still play one Spirit Guide, which he'd Bolt. Then it's a matter of beating you in 7 turns.

1st: 6 life, one token, 2nd land.
2nd: 5 life, two tokens, 3rd land, attack (you're at 19)
3rd: 4 life, three tokens, 4th land, attack (you're at 17)
4th: 3 life, four tokens, 5th land and Fallen Angel, attack (you're at 14)
5th: 2 life, five tokens, attack (you're at 7 - four 1/1's + 3 from the Angel)
6th: 1 life, six tokens, attack for 8, killing you, or a max of 15 by using the Angel's ability.

Very close. XD

[hells33kerd]

so who else thinks hindering touch would have been useful this round? oh and thats 2 for 2 first place for me:P

[boiwithteeth]

I am happy to be one of the 666's

[guest1234]

@guest, going first you win, so this is for pickles going first. During pickles's upkeep you can get the Caverns into play removing the Leyline (don't need it) and cast Gaze of Adamaro on him for 13, or hold the Spirit Guides to play some creatures. Either way, pickles can Thoughtseize your Zealot, and if you don't cast Gaze the most you would be able to play threat-wise are two Spirit Guides thanks to the limit, one of which dies to Lightning Bolt. After that, pickles's Bitterblossom wins.

If you Gaze him he'd go down to 7, then Thoughtseize your Zealot and play Bitterblossom (along with an Island). You can still play one Spirit Guide, which he'd Bolt. Then it's a matter of beating you in 7 turns.

1st: 6 life, one token, 2nd land.
2nd: 5 life, two tokens, 3rd land, attack (you're at 19)
3rd: 4 life, three tokens, 4th land, attack (you're at 17)
4th: 3 life, four tokens, 5th land and Fallen Angel, attack (you're at 14)
5th: 2 life, five tokens, attack (you're at 7 - four 1/1's + 3 from the Angel)
6th: 1 life, six tokens, attack for 8, killing you, or a max of 15 by using the Angel's ability.

Very close. XD

Um, how does he play Lightning Bolt? It's not in the card list. Anyhow, I should play Gaze, using the Caverns, remove one Simian and two Elves.
Pickles should Thoughtseize a Simian Spirit Guide, after which I only have 1 Simian left. I won't have enough mana to play any creatures.

However, on the turn of the 6th attack, I play Split Second Angel's grace, and stay at 1 life.
Again on the 7th I play Angel's Grace and stay at 1. Pickles will BitterBlossom to death.

[Maleficent]

Simian Spirit Guide, and ah... yeah, forgot to put that in. :paranoid: Even though it says 13 cards, there are only 12 listed. :rolleyes: *fixed*

[Ryuzaki]

:logic:

Mal, stop creating chaos when you have neither the time nor the money!

[guest1234]

What there is a bolt? Well I guess my latest edit stands, as I can win without playing creatures. Hang on... if pickles doesn't play BitterBlossom... still thinking arrrgh XD

Edit: oh I miscounted. I'll have 2 undiscarded guides, unseized guides. I can play one, discard the other, and have a creature to win if BitB doesn't come. That should do it then. (I think :o)

[Maleficent]

@Ryu, Give me 4 good reasons. No wait, 5.

@guest, right after the Spirit Guide.


However, on the turn of the 6th attack, I play Split Second Angel's grace, and stay at 1 life.
Again on the 7th I play Angel's Grace and stay at 1. Pickles will BitterBlossom to death.

Ah yes... brilliant! *fixed*

[guest1234]

Now some of the other matchups :twisted:
Going second, I drop the Caverns and Leyline of Life Force. At the first opportunity I play Angel's Grace. Since it's split second, it resolves and I can't lose this turn.

My turn: If any shenanigans happen, I tap Caverns again and play a second Grace so I can't lose.

Main phase: Play plains. Next I remove all my guides from the game, and with GGGGRRRRW I play Flame-Kin Zealot and 4x SNOT. These are uncounterable, so they come into play. The SNOT combines to be a 17/17 with Haste, and the Zealot is a 3/3 with Haste. Attack for the win.
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Foils
tfp: can Strip Mine my Caverns during his Main Phase. Thus in my upkeep he can quicken/channel/fireball FTW. I lose.
Maleficent: can Abolish my LeyLine, and then force my creatures. I lose.
Thunderhog: Sickening Shoal kills each creature after it comes in play. I lose.
Cashew: Leyline of Singularity reduces me to 1 SNOT at a time, but Cashew only has 1 threat and I can Angel's Grace out of that. Cashew's second attack strategy is creatures, but the Leyline limits Cashew to only 1 simian and 1elvish guide, and I can neutralize those by playing my own (Singularity). Cashew's final strategy is to keep the Leyline of Singularity in hand. Play a massive mana ramp (discarding 3 elves) and play out 3 simians. But then I play my 4 SNOT and 1 flamekin and overpower him. :D I think I win!
hells33kerd: main phase discard my hand. :(

And the rest stands.

Now if I'm first:
Thunderhog gets cards only up to Black Lotus, which means 1 Dryad Arbor as a threat. I get to play 4 Snots, and 2 spirit guides. 4 of these will be hit by Sickening Shoal, but the remainder will stay. That should win. :)
Cashew loses same as above.
hells33kerd: I can play out my Snots and Flamekin before Wheel hits, and attack. (Caverns are legendary so only 1 can be used.) Win!
tfp: 1 Cavern for blue, then guides for GGRR. Only allows 1 quicken. Fireball can't be played. Therefore flaming SNOT wins!

If I'm right on all these counts, that will add +15 to my score. :eek: (Probably I screwed up somewhere though. It's complicated.)

[Maleficent]

Wait, what? XD You talking about the games you go first against those people... or all games? :confused:

[guest1234]

Edited... hope it's clear now.

[Maleficent]

Ok....

You going 2nd
Cashew: Angel's Grace is pretty awesome. XD Ok... Cashew starts by playing Leyline of Singularity and removing 4 Guides, 2 of each (RRGG) and uses them to cast Seething Song (RRRRRG). With that he casts the other 3 Seething Songs (11 Red and 1 G). Manamorphose twice (9 Red, 1 Black, 1 Blue, 1 Green), and he can FoW his own card then FoW his FoW, giving him threshold, since the extra counters are useless anyway. With BR he casts Cabal Ritual (8 Red, 1 Blue, 1 Green, 5 Black) and then casts the other 3 for BBB apiece (8 Red, 1 Blue, 1 Green, 14 Black).

Now he can play the 2 left over Spirit Guides using RBB and GBB (7 Red, 1 Blue, 10 Black), that's 2 2/2's in play with 18 mana left over, which he can use to play Quicken and Torch you for 16.

Gaze can be removed for the Caverns, so... that + Plains + remove a Simian Guide = kill Cashew's Simian Guide, and the other 2 Simian Guides + Elvish Guide = Kill Cashew's Elvish Guide, leaving him with nothing and you with snot FTW. XD

You going 1st
TH: The Guides I didn't take into account, yep.
Cashew: Worse. XD
hells: Legendary Lands... srsly. I wonder how many times I made that mistake.... XD Looks about right.
tfp: Right. Legendary FTL. :eek:

*fixes yet again*

[Maleficent]

Congratulations guest, you're now in the lead. :rotf: That also means that tfp probably has a much lower score with the multiple Caverns not working. hells should be ok in that area methinks. Should be.

[Ryuzaki]

One year later.

Mal: So actually I'm winning, and cashew is trailing behind, guest is in the middle somewhere. Meanwhile Ryuzaki is still at the starting gate drinking sugar with some tea. Does he not realize we've already started?!

:rotf:

[Maleficent]

Give or take.

[hells33kerd]

ouch legendary...shows how often i forget that :P ah well

[guest1234]

snot FTW. XD

:jump: :jump: I'm winning?! :jump: :jump:
Wow :cleo: I thought my deck would be mediocre, but cool beans!

[tfp]

Gemstone Cavern is Legendary??????
:omg2: :banghead:

I should take some time to read the cards next round :paranoid:

[Maleficent]

Yes. Fortunately, none of tfp's other games were affected so far as I know.

Any other mistakes?

[hells33kerd]

Gemstone Cavern is Legendary??????
:omg2: :banghead:

I should take some time to read the cards next round :paranoid:
same here

we should do a round where You can submit a deck that can win before the opponent's first main phase and You can submit a deck that can force an opponent to lose two or more cards from his or her hand in a single turn, but using regular XCB (up to 5)....and just a thought, why don't we have unhinged and unglued legal in regular XCB?

[Maleficent]

and just a thought, why don't we have unhinged and unglued legal in regular XCB?

Probably because they aren't legal in regular Magic, but on the other hand, this IS a casual site, and the usable Un-cards for XCB are pretty legitimate imo. XD Shall we have a vote?


we should do a round where You can submit a deck that can win before the opponent's first main phase and You can submit a deck that can force an opponent to lose two or more cards from his or her hand in a single turn, but using regular XCB (up to 5)

Good idea. How about bannings?

2 more days for corrections.

[hells33kerd]

Good idea. How about bannings?

i'd say no bannings with that either cause it's not normal XCB entirely

[Maleficent]

Excellent, well then. Here are the final standings:

1. guest: 0+6+3+6+3+3+3+6+6+X+3 | 39+10 = 49
2. hells: 6+6+6+3+X+3+6+3+6+3+6 | 48+0 = 48
3. Cashew: 6+6+6+X+3+3+3+3+3+6+3 | 42+5 = 47
4. fp: 3+6+3+3+3+4+4+X+6+0+3 | 36+10 = 46
5. tfp: 6+6+6+3+0+3+4+3+3+3+X | 37+5 = 42
6. TH: 3+6+X+0+0+6+6+3+6+3+0 | 33+5 = 38
7. Mal: X+6+3+0+0+3+4+3+6+6+0 | 31+5 = 36
7. BWT: 3+6+0+3+3+X+3+1+3+3+3 | 28+15 = 36
7. Fry: 1+6+0+3+0+3+X+1+3+3+1 | 21+15 = 36
8. pickles: 0+6+0+3+0+3+3+0+X+3+3 | 21+10 = 28
9. Ryu: 0+X+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0 | 0+0 = 0

guest1234 is the Victor!

All bow before his genius! :bow:

Next round should be up shortly. It'll be a normal one. :)

[guest1234]

:cheers: I don't know about genius here. Mine was really a metagame choice. With most of the decks being counter heavy and containing instakill combos, I chose a deck with uncounterable spells, including two that foil instakill.

Ironically, more than half my victories were simply due to going first with a small deck where my opponent had few threats left.

Thanks for the work Mal!

:cleo:

[Maleficent]

Would you like me to edit it then? "Bow before him... that lucky bastard?" XD XCB is all about the metagame. :P