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Haggis
08-18-2008, 07:41 PM
This Is the Pairing/Results Page for the MDV Extended Swiss tournament.

Your pairings will be posted in two places: This post and as a new post in the thread (to bump it). Along with the pairings I'll give you a deadline of when those matches need to be played.

Results will be posted in this thread. Result pages should include the number of games each player won (IE I beat Streetz 2-1). Both players must report. If one player reports first the other simply has to quote the message and underneath it post the word "confirmed".

Once all the results are in or the deadline comes I'll post the pairings for the next round.

This tournament will be 5 rounds of swiss with a top 4 cut.

You have been paired randomly, you have 3 days to get you matches in. If you cannot come to a mutual time to play your match, send me or Lionden a PM quoting your conversation with your opponent, showing us that you made an effort but could not come to an agreement. This will result in a draw. If your opponent doesn't respond to your attempts to set up a time, send us a message showing this and you'll be credited for a win. If you both disappear you both get losses.

Deck Codes (check here to make sure your opponent is playing the same deck he/she submitted):

Aladdin, (b1174154)
3nd3r, (b60d12b1)
AlasterEisaroh, (b995a0d3)
Castle, (386a927d)
Death_By_Beebles, (36717349)
Elistral, (dec75506)
FryChikn (73ede0e0)
FuDaWg45, (da3edaeb)
GG Chrono, xxxxx
Lionden_56, (e9189d60)N
eeNee, (bb16a0b1)
NeoMagicwarrior, (d04c10d4)
Niv-Mizzet, (a8717ddb)
Scion, (f291a375)
Serra Redeemer, (e4d0bf17)
Thunderhog, (8418bc89)
Tresserhorn, (11c91394)
Tynion, (f7ce3405)

First Round pairings
Niv-Mizzet vs NeoMagicwarrior
Serra Redeemer vs Elistral
Tynion vs Castle
FuDaWg45 vs Aladdin
Death By Beebles vs NeeNee
3nd3r vs FryChikn
Thunderhog vs Lionden_56
Tresserhorn vs Scion
GG Chrono vs AlasterEisaroh

Second Round Pairings
Death By Beeble vs GG Chrono
Serra Redeemer vs NeoMagicwarrior
Tynion vs Thresserhorn
FuDaWg45 vs Thunderhog
FryChkin Vs Castle
3nd3r vs Lionden
Alaster vs Scion
Elistral vs Neenee
Aladdin vs Niv-Mizzet

Third Round Pairings
Tynion vs NeoMagicwarrior
Death_by_Beebles vs FuDaWg
Fry vs Lionden
NeeNee vs Scion
Thunderhog vs Thresserhorn
GG Chrono vs 3nd3r
Niv Mizzet vs Castle
Alster vs Elistral

Fourth Round Pairings
Tynion vs Beebs
Scion vs Thunderhog
Lionden vs NeoMagicwarrior
FuDaWg vs FryChikn
3nd3r vs Niv-Mizzet
GG Chrono vs NeeNee
Alaster vs Thresserhorn
Castle vs Elistral

Fifth Round Pairings
Beebs vs Thunderhog
Fudawg vs Tynion
lionden vs Tresserhorn
NeoMagicwarrior vs 3nd3r
GG Chrono vs Scion
FryChkin vs NeeNee
Elistral vs Niv-Mizzet
Castle vs Alaster

Playoff Round 1
Beebs vs Thunderhog
NeoMagicwarrior vs FuDaWg45

Haggis
08-18-2008, 09:18 PM
First Round Pairings up!

lionden_56
08-18-2008, 09:31 PM
PM sent :)

ThunderHog
08-18-2008, 11:39 PM
PM received. XD

Serra Redeemer
08-19-2008, 01:41 AM
Sent PM to Elistral :E

NeoMagicwarrior
08-19-2008, 08:52 AM
PM Swarm commencing

Niv-Mizzet_Rulez!
08-19-2008, 03:38 PM
PM has arrived. Initiating rondevu.

Tresserhorn
08-19-2008, 03:39 PM
Tress over Scion 2-1

Good games and a very well played match.

§cIoN
08-19-2008, 04:01 PM
Tress over Scion 2-1
/me Confirms.


Good games and a very well played match.
/me Agrees.

NeoMagicwarrior
08-19-2008, 07:56 PM
Neo 2 - 0 Niv

Niv-Mizzet_Rulez!
08-19-2008, 07:58 PM
Neo 2 - 0 Niv

Tis true.

This is what I get for playing an "original deck". I knew I should have played a "copy paste" kind of deck but no....i had to be original.

lionden_56
08-19-2008, 08:00 PM
Tis true.

This is what I get for playing an "original deck". I knew I should have played a "copy paste" kind of deck but no....i had to be original.
Don't worry, you aren't the only one :)

Tresserhorn
08-19-2008, 08:02 PM
Not by a long shot

Niv-Mizzet_Rulez!
08-19-2008, 08:12 PM
Well thats good to know. :yourock: people who made "original decks"

Elistral
08-19-2008, 08:25 PM
pm recieved waiting on MWS

lionden_56
08-19-2008, 08:40 PM
Hog wins 2-1

Good match. Nice play in game 3

Serra Redeemer
08-19-2008, 08:52 PM
I'll admit. Mine is a Semi Copy Paste Job. I do have my own tweaks to the deck I played. Slowed it down some honestly. Sorry Guys. I will say this in testing Castle whooped my ass 1-4

Still waiting on Elistral on MWS

ThunderHog
08-19-2008, 09:04 PM
Hog wins 2-1

Good match. Nice play in game 3
Confirmed, on both accounts. And, also, I'm playing an original deck too! Just ask LD. XD

FrycHiKn
08-19-2008, 09:17 PM
So... We are original?

PM sent :E

Death_By_Beebles
08-19-2008, 09:36 PM
D_B_B bests Neenee 2-0. Good games, both of them. It's always a pleasure to play against Neenee. Good luck in the rest of your matches! :)


I'm about as original as... well, not that original. I mean, I built my deck myself, but I had an archetype in mind before I built it.

Neenee
08-19-2008, 09:36 PM
Beebles won 2-0.

was fun though ^_^

ThunderHog
08-19-2008, 09:46 PM
D_B_B bests Neenee 2-0. Good games, both of them. It's always a pleasure to play against Neenee. Good luck in the rest of your matches! :)

I'm about as original as... well, not that original. I mean, I built my deck myself, but I had an archetype in mind before I built it.
Don't worry, my deck isn't NEARLY as bad as it was last time. XD

Serra Redeemer
08-19-2008, 10:40 PM
SR 2-0 over Elistral.

To be fair, This was A horrid matchup. First game though. He/She Made me work for it.

Second Game Turn 2 Win Game (Sort of)

Had I not Locked Turn 2, I was Owned. Revealed his/her Hand at end of game. ***Shudder***

Aladdin
08-19-2008, 10:41 PM
FuDaWg beats Aladdin 2-0 :)

Very solid deck, nice games.

Elistral
08-19-2008, 10:42 PM
SR 2-0 over Elistral.

To be fair, This was A horrid matchup. First game though. He/She Made me work for it.

Second Game Turn 2 Win Game (Sort of)

Had I not Locked Turn 2, I was Owned. Revealed his/her Hand at end of game. ***Shudder***

confrimed and agreed on the horrid matchup haggis your on my list to kill now

FuDaWg45
08-19-2008, 10:44 PM
FuDaWg beats Aladdin 2-0 :)

Very solid deck, nice games.

Confirmed. Aladdin's got some sweet synergy, but just couldn't stand up to the beat-face-a-tron. :)

ThunderHog
08-19-2008, 10:48 PM
...the beat-face-a-tron. :)
/me hopes to be paired with FuDaWg. :devil:

Tresserhorn
08-20-2008, 12:34 AM
/me wants to have a match with DBB.. Must Redeem Nee

:-p

ThunderHog
08-20-2008, 12:35 AM
Her knight in shining armor. How quaint. XD

Serra Redeemer
08-20-2008, 12:40 AM
Elistral might be under the sheets, but she is out to kill one man. ***Hands Haggis a Fork*** Good luck. You're gonna need it

Castle
08-20-2008, 06:23 AM
tynion-2 Castle-1

great games i just wish my deck would be a little but more..um "cooperative" :paranoid:

still great games though

Death_By_Beebles
08-20-2008, 07:16 AM
/me wants to have a match with DBB.. Must Redeem Nee

:-p

Aww. Soooooo cuuuuuuuute!!! ;)

Haggis
08-20-2008, 09:39 AM
haggis your on my list to kill now


Meh, I'm afraid you'll have to take a number. theres a long line in front of you

Tynion
08-20-2008, 11:36 AM
tynion-2 Castle-1

great games i just wish my deck would be a little but more..um "cooperative" :paranoid:

still great games though

Confirmation. He drew around 20 consecutive mana sources in game three...

Guess what... I'll take the W !!!! :D

GGs Castle.

lionden_56
08-20-2008, 08:16 PM
If I counted correctly we're waiting on 2 results? Is that right?

Castle
08-20-2008, 08:31 PM
If I counted correctly we're waiting on 2 results? Is that right?

yea waiting on...
3nd3r vs FryChikn
GG Chrono vs AlasterEisaroh
it would be nice if got done some time today or tomorrow

AlasterEisaroh
08-21-2008, 12:02 AM
Crono wins 2-0

I was one card away from winning each game.

Haggis
08-21-2008, 12:22 AM
Just waiting on 3nd3r and Fry

Serra Redeemer
08-21-2008, 07:40 PM
I have to Drop. My MWS has gone Haywire.

§cIoN
08-21-2008, 07:50 PM
Try to re-install the masterbase.
If that doesn't work, try re-installing it... don't worry you wont lose your pictures.

Serra Redeemer
08-21-2008, 07:54 PM
I've Re-Re-installed it. I gotta go to work. And I am busy tomorrow with a date. So I won't be able to do anything til tues day. If you have to Put Elistral in my place. But, I am frustrated enough as is.

3nd3r
08-21-2008, 07:55 PM
me and fry should be playing sometime tonight (after 8 pm on the forum clock i do believe).

Haggis
08-22-2008, 09:58 AM
Fry has been uber busy with real life, he has told me if he doesn't get the game done to day he will forfiet and drop.

I said it was ok and hope he gets the games done, i know its past the 3 days, but i decided to throw him a bone. So i appologize for the delay.

3nd3r
08-23-2008, 09:42 PM
I'm sorry to say this but the games didn't get played and i hope i can make it up to Fry sometime. i didn't get on last night and he's not on right now, so i don't know i'll let haggis call this one. :(

Haggis
08-24-2008, 12:51 AM
i'm going to call it a draw as you both attempted to get it

Haggis
08-24-2008, 01:04 AM
Round Two Pairings

Death By Beeble vs GG Chrono
Serra Redeemer vs NeoMagicwarrior
Tynion vs Thresserhorn
FuDaWg45 vs Thunderhog
FryChkin Vs Castle
3nd3r vs Lionden
Alaster vs Scion
Elistral vs Neenee
Aladdin vs Niv-Mizzet

Elistral
08-24-2008, 05:29 PM
pm sent. just awaiting confirmation and such.

AlasterEisaroh
08-24-2008, 05:33 PM
Round Two Pairings

Death By Beeble vs GG Chrono
Serra Redeemer vs NeoMagicwarrior
Tynion vs Thresserhorn
FuDaWg45 vs Thunderhog
FryChkin Vs Castle
3nd3r vs Lionden
Alaster vs Scion
Elistral vs Neenee
Aladdin vs Niv-Mizzet

Girl on Girl action! XD

Sorry I had too. Oh come on you know some one would of said it.

lionden_56
08-24-2008, 05:43 PM
Gotta love DCI Reporter...sets up the all female match-up and sets up the match 'Hog was looking for vs. FuDa...only thing we didn't get was Tress vs. Beebles (which would have been hilarious).

Oh, and PM sent...what's the deadline for this round?

Castle
08-24-2008, 08:55 PM
FrycHiKn-2 Castle-1

great games, and if he didnt screw up my plan (trying not to give deck away) i would have won next turn on g3 XD

FrycHiKn
08-24-2008, 08:55 PM
t3H Chicken wins!


FrycHiKn-2; Castle-1.


Nice games... God I hate his deck... just kidding or am I? :paranoid:

Castle
08-24-2008, 10:32 PM
God I hate his deck... just kidding or am I? :paranoid:

i could say the same XD

Tynion
08-25-2008, 06:35 AM
Tynion 2, Tress 1.

Beware the Imp beatdown!

Tresserhorn
08-25-2008, 06:35 AM
Tynion 2 Tress 1

good games. Best of luck the rest of the way.

Tynion
08-25-2008, 06:39 AM
Thanks Tress, same to you. :)

It was a good match, and I enjoyed it. Made me think... which sucks at 6:00 am.

ThunderHog
08-25-2008, 08:08 AM
Tynion said that he was going to try and help with my tiebreakers. XD Keep up the good work! :cheer:

Serra Redeemer
08-25-2008, 08:19 AM
Sr Dropped Before The Second Round Due To Mws Not Functional.

Tynion
08-25-2008, 12:08 PM
I am not helping with anyone's tie breakers :P Keep it up and I will drag every game from here out into a 1-1-1 draw LOL

Hurricane for 75 FTW!

Haggis
08-25-2008, 12:20 PM
@ loinden: The deadline is Wednesday.

@ Serra: I though you said you were up and running again?

§cIoN
08-25-2008, 02:46 PM
Ok Scion beats Alaster 2-0
Good games, Came VERY close game 2.

AlasterEisaroh
08-25-2008, 02:51 PM
Ok Scion beats Alaster 2-0
Good games, Came VERY close game 2.

Comfirmed.

Niv-Mizzet_Rulez!
08-25-2008, 02:56 PM
Niv-Mizzet_Rulez! 1, Aladdin 2

I actually won a game. Yay!
Good games Aladdin. I went down fighting hard.

Aladdin
08-25-2008, 03:02 PM
Niv-Mizzet_Rulez! 1, Aladdin 2

I actually won a game. Yay!
Good games Aladdin. I went down fighting hard.

Confirmed :) They were actually good, interactive games that, on top of it, were led in a nice mood :)
We both fought over the same piece of cheese :P I enjoyed that a lot !

lionden_56
08-25-2008, 05:14 PM
We both fought over the same piece of cheese :P I enjoyed that a lot !
Please tell me that means someone is running a Barren Glory deck... (formerly The Cheese Stands Alone)

Still waiting to hear back from 3nd3r.

Aladdin
08-25-2008, 06:31 PM
Please tell me that means someone is running a Barren Glory deck... (formerly The Cheese Stands Alone)
XD I actually thought about The Cheese when writing this, but no, unfortunately, I am not aware of any deck based upon it in this tournament :P

I mostly meant that none of our 3 games has been one sided.
I can't tell much more without revealing things about the decks so... :paranoid: For now... I'll flee !!

FrycHiKn
08-25-2008, 06:35 PM
Please tell me that means someone is running a Barren Glory deck... (formerly The Cheese Stands Alone)

Me? Nah... I'm not that crazy... :P

Elistral
08-25-2008, 06:57 PM
2-0 favor to Neenee

and dont ask me to play anyone and i wont be particapating agian in a tournament, till i'm more sure on certian rulings.

Neenee
08-25-2008, 06:58 PM
confirmed 2-0 for me.

Haggis
08-25-2008, 08:08 PM
2-0 favor to Neenee

and dont ask me to play anyone and i wont be particapating agian in a tournament, till i'm more sure on certian rulings.


does that mean you are dropping from this one?

FuDaWg45
08-25-2008, 08:11 PM
FuDaWg45 beats Thunderhog 2-0.

Had his deck worked, I probably would've been toast. Good games though.

ThunderHog
08-25-2008, 08:12 PM
*owned* That didn't work like I'd hoped...

2-0: FuDaWg. Mana hosed first game, couldn't combo out the second...[/excuses]

Elistral
08-25-2008, 08:26 PM
does that mean you are dropping from this one?

isn't this a swiss tournament to begin with meaning 2 loss's and out?


my bad >< sorry about that, i just want to get up todate on some things, and no i'm not out haggis just have questions about certian card abilities.

AlasterEisaroh
08-25-2008, 08:54 PM
No, you play 5 rounds. Just like Haggis stated in the first post (at least I think he did).

FuDaWg45
08-25-2008, 11:20 PM
isn't this a swiss tournament to begin with meaning 2 loss's and out?


my bad >< sorry about that, i just want to get up todate on some things, and no i'm not out haggis just have questions about certian card abilities.

Head on over to the rulings forum and ask away. We even have an actual DCI judge here at MDV who'll give you the bottom line.

Haggis
08-25-2008, 11:27 PM
no its not two loses and your out i was just questioning it becuase of what you said about not wanting to be asked to be in tournaments untill you figure out some rule stuff.

Castle
08-26-2008, 12:18 AM
Please tell me that means someone is running a Barren Glory deck... (formerly The Cheese Stands Alone)

*cough**cough*:paranoid:, naw im jk but i know what deck im running next tourny :E

lionden_56
08-26-2008, 12:24 AM
Its better in Legacy when you can sac everything to a suspended Greater Gargadon (or keep a few lands), search for Barren Glory with that Academy Rector you had in play...then when it triggers next upkeep float a B for One With Nothing and win.

Aladdin
08-26-2008, 01:49 PM
Hum... I'm afraid I'll have to drop the tournament :(

I didn't expect it to bump into September, which sure will be a very busy month for me. I won't be home a fair number of days, and the time difference between Europe and the US will make it nearly impossible for me to play my games.
I also prefer to quit before it gets too hot IRL, so...
... My apologies :)

I wish you all the best matches :)

Serra Redeemer
08-26-2008, 08:58 PM
@ loinden: The deadline is Wednesday.

@ Serra: I though you said you were up and running again?

I said I was going to TRY and be up and running again.

Death_By_Beebles
08-26-2008, 11:59 PM
GG Chrono has postponed our match due to computer troubles. How long do we have to get this round finished?

§cIoN
08-27-2008, 12:20 AM
Not sure, but I think he said something about the deadline being wednesday.

EDIT: Found it.
http://magicdeckvortex.com/vbforums/showpost.php?p=250892&postcount=59

@ loinden: The deadline is Wednesday.

Tynion
08-27-2008, 05:15 AM
*checks watch* today is Wednesday...

Haggis
08-27-2008, 09:54 AM
I have been very leniant this tourny on deadlines. as teh first round took a week to get done.

The lionden 3nd3r match won't be taking place till around 10pm tonight. So if you guys could get her done tonight or early tomarrow that would be great. I would like to post 3rd round pairings around 7-8 central tomarrow.

I know its not that much time but the legacy tournament is starting soon, and i'd like to have this wrapped up before it starts.

Haggis
08-28-2008, 01:32 PM
Sorry about teh double post. but when i get home tonight (5pm central) i will be posting round 3 pairings around 8. Those who don' thave your matches in by then, i get to deside your fate, you can help by pming me any corispodence between you and your opponent to make my life easier.

sorry i'm cutting you short but this is the second time in a row i had to extend the dead line. we need to keep things rolling

again i appologize.

Elistral
08-28-2008, 10:48 PM
ok i work 10-3 on both saturday and sunday best time for me to play is around 4:30 or so on those days. i will await the round 3 matchings.

lionden_56
08-28-2008, 10:57 PM
LD beats 3nd3r 2-1 :)

Game 3 was epic...

Edit: and I'm assuming some circumstance happened that is preventing Haggis from posting pairings.

Haggis
08-28-2008, 11:40 PM
Round Three Pairings

Tynion vs NeoMagicwarrior
Death_by_Beebles vs FuDaWg
Fry vs Lionden
NeeNee vs Scion
Thunderhog vs Thresserhorn
GG Chrono vs 3nd3r
Niv Mizzet vs Castle
Alaster vs Elistral

I gave Beebes the win because i never heard a word from chrono.

lionden_56
08-28-2008, 11:49 PM
PM sent to Fry ;)

Tresserhorn
08-29-2008, 01:34 AM
Message sent

Tynion
08-29-2008, 05:24 AM
PM sent

Neenee
08-29-2008, 01:12 PM
PM sent

§cIoN
08-29-2008, 01:36 PM
PM sent

Death_By_Beebles
08-29-2008, 01:43 PM
I beat FuDaWg45 2-0. It was a good match, and the second game really just came down to who got the top deck. Unfortunately for him, I got the top deck, and he got a land :(.

FuDaWg45
08-29-2008, 02:07 PM
I beat FuDaWg45 2-0. It was a good match, and the second game really just came down to who got the top deck. Unfortunately for him, I got the top deck, and he got a land :(.

This is generous... I got slaughtered haha

§cIoN
08-29-2008, 02:43 PM
Scion 2-1 Neenee
Good games.:D

Neenee
08-29-2008, 02:43 PM
yup, 2-1 Scion.

was fun ^_^

AlasterEisaroh
08-29-2008, 11:41 PM
Alaster wins 2-1

Fun games :D

Elistral
08-29-2008, 11:43 PM
confirmed with alaster. 2-1 his favor

good games never played a deck like that and it kinda hurt ><

FrycHiKn
08-30-2008, 01:21 PM
LD beats the chicken 2 -1

lionden_56
08-30-2008, 01:21 PM
2-1 Lionden...can he go 4-0 after losing to make top 4?


and GG Fry...I was scared after game 1

FrycHiKn
08-30-2008, 02:23 PM
My deck is evil but yours is pure evil!!!

GG Crono
08-30-2008, 04:04 PM
I apologize for not checking in recently. Had some computer issues that culminated in reinstalling windows.

Tresserhorn
08-30-2008, 04:31 PM
That's never good GG. Glad to see ya back.

Tresserhorn
08-31-2008, 12:15 AM
Thunderhog 2-0

good games. Just couldn't get the threats needed.

ThunderHog
08-31-2008, 12:15 AM
TH win over Tress, 2-0

Actual quote from the game:
<ThunderHog>: I pulled the first game outta my butt - and I got the papercut to prove it!

3nd3r
08-31-2008, 12:48 PM
pm sent to gg chrono. sorry about all the delays people and to agree with LD game 3 of our match was epic.

Niv-Mizzet_Rulez!
08-31-2008, 04:27 PM
Me 2, Castle 1

Good games castle

Castle
08-31-2008, 05:16 PM
Me 2, Castle 1

Good games castle

confirmed....im disappointed in my self, lost the games due to simple mistakes but oh well thats what i get for not sleeping :p (also lost a couple after :()

AlasterEisaroh
08-31-2008, 07:47 PM
So we are only waiting on Crono's and 3nd3r's game right?

Tynion
09-01-2008, 10:56 AM
I need to find a spare minute to play Neo.. holiday weekend... my apologies. RLF...

NeoMagicwarrior
09-01-2008, 11:59 AM
neo 1 2 ty

i got screwed with some lucky draws for him

Tynion
09-01-2008, 12:04 PM
What he called lucky draws, I call Mulliganing twice in game three to get a Leyline of the Void and having two Engineered Plagues in the same hand. Sorry bro, all your guys are 1 toughness.

Metagame tells me that alot of decks are dabbling with the graveyard. HELL YES I AM SIDING IN HAUNTING ECHOES ON YOUR ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRSH!@

Good game though. Just pull back on the testosterone and have some sportsmanship. I didn't complain about you Pithining my Fetchlands. Which didn't make sense since you Pithed your own as well.


2-1 Me.

Haggis
09-01-2008, 01:52 PM
just waiting on 3nd3r and GG Chrono

§cIoN
09-01-2008, 09:38 PM
Are we still waiting on GGchrono?
If we are, then I think we can just continue to the next round.
He didn't respond for round 2 and was given an auto-loss. And, I think it's going to be the same thing this round.
Personally I don't think he'll be around for any of the future rounds.

3nd3r
09-01-2008, 09:43 PM
give us until tomorrow midnight if you would please. just having trouble catching up with one another.

lionden_56
09-01-2008, 09:51 PM
He no-showed because of computer troubles, which apparently have now been rectified. This is probably just a schedule thing...I know from being paired up with 3nd3r in a round that his availability isn't an overly large window. (not blaming you or anything, just saying)

§cIoN
09-01-2008, 09:55 PM
Ahh ok.
If that's the case then hopefully he can get the games done soon.

Haggis
09-02-2008, 12:48 PM
give us until tomorrow midnight if you would please. just having trouble catching up with one another.

ok! but that's it. No more extentions for anyone after this, if you don't get you match don eyou will more then likely draw unless you can prove you tried harder to get your game done then your opponet. The league is starting and we need to keep teh schedule strict.

sorry if that sounded harsh.

3nd3r
09-02-2008, 11:35 PM
me 2 - 0 gg crono

sorry, pathetic, games which were no fun for either. i hope the third time i get to play you gg that the games are ones we can both enjoy.

Elistral
09-03-2008, 12:17 AM
ok! but that's it. No more extentions for anyone after this, if you don't get you match don eyou will more then likely draw unless you can prove you tried harder to get your game done then your opponet. The league is starting and we need to keep teh schedule strict.

sorry if that sounded harsh.

i'm in agreeance with haggis, i'm sick of waiting for ppl, round 5 should have started by now if it wasn't for the delays.

Tynion
09-03-2008, 05:27 AM
3 days fellas. You've got to get your games in. If you can't get it in, then let the judge know. 3 days is how long we have agreed on since the league started. You should be playing two games a week minimum. If that is not possible, then respectfully step down.

Just keep in mind how many people are depending on you:

The judge is trying to keep things flowing smoothly
The other players are wanting to find out who wins
People not playing but watching are wanting to join the next tournament
The people who are not doing well want to get into a new one for a fresh start

You've got to keep moving.

Haggis
09-03-2008, 01:35 PM
OK first thing when i get home, Pairings for round 4 will be up along with the standings after 3

Haggis
09-03-2008, 07:36 PM
Round 4 Pairings

Tynion vs Beebs
Scion vs Thunderhog
Lionden vs NeoMagicwarrior
FuDaWg vs FryChikn
3nd3r vs Niv-Mizzet
GG Chrono vs NeeNee
Alaster vs Thresserhorn
Castle vs Elistral


Standings after 3 rounds

lionden_56
09-03-2008, 07:49 PM
Don't double post

Just messing with ya ;)

PM Sent and Deadline is?

Haggis
09-03-2008, 09:06 PM
deadline is saturday

Elistral
09-03-2008, 09:22 PM
pm sent, and i would like to note to whoever is my opponent for round 5 that i wont be availble this weekend till sunday night, which i s a major if, cause i wont be home till midnight, and most likely will have to work the next day.

lionden_56
09-03-2008, 09:34 PM
Alright folks, so I did a little math, and according to my calculations, there are a few different scenarios: Scenario A = 10 points gets you into the top 4. Scenario B: We wind up with 5 people at 12 and someone misses on breakers. Scenario C: We have one at 13 and 3 and twelve and we get a nice clean cut. Either way...no one has secured a spot yet. The winner of Beebles and Tynion (assuming they play it and don't draw) will be the first to clinch (even if 5 people tie they'll have the best breakers). Everyone at 6 needs to keep on winning.

ThunderHog
09-03-2008, 10:45 PM
TH vs Scion

2-0 TH's Win

Game 1 - I combo'd out.
Game 2 - My combo was Pithing Needled and the game ended up a complete stalemate. With my Wheel of Fates and Howling Mines I ended up milling him to death. I had 5 cards left in my deck. XD

Awesome games.

§cIoN
09-03-2008, 10:47 PM
TH vs Scion

2-0 TH's Win
Confirmed
Great games, I just couldnt seal the deal in the 2nd game, was forced to use my burn to kill him, but couldnt take out the last 4 life before drawing myself out.
I must say though, it was the first game that i played so many figure of destiny without even attacking with them once.

Tynion
09-04-2008, 11:29 AM
Thanks for the scouting report TH :P Now all I need to do is figure a way to beat Beebles and I can utilize my newfound knowledge...

Just messing with ya. Congrats on moving up to table one in the final round (most likely). I could be wrong but:

Since Fudawg was paired down, he falls to the lowest ranking 1 loss. (this could be the wrench in my works..)

I already beat Neo, therefore if I win, he can not play in table one.

TH has a better win % than LD currently, and won 2-0 so LD can not over take him.

lionden_56
09-04-2008, 12:43 PM
Pairings are random. In the test that I did on my Reporter, I actually had myself getting pairied up in the last round (assuming I beat Neo, which isn't an easy assumption to make)...against the winner of the Beebles vs. you match...So tiebreakers don't matter yet.

Tynion
09-04-2008, 01:01 PM
It doesnt take any of that into consideration? What a buzz kill lol

AlasterEisaroh
09-04-2008, 06:50 PM
Tress wins 2-0

I was one card short of winning each time.

Tresserhorn
09-04-2008, 08:05 PM
Confirmed.

lionden_56
09-04-2008, 08:39 PM
It doesnt take any of that into consideration? What a buzz kill lol

No, and apparently Haggis' DCI reporter hates me because I've been paired up twice (paired up = matched with people that have more points than me). In terms of match-ups this is usually bad because it means you're facing a better deck...but I guess it makes up for it in better tiebreakers.

Niv-Mizzet_Rulez!
09-04-2008, 11:10 PM
Me-0 Him-2
Worst possible match up ever. My deck just can't compeat with his. Stupid enchatment.(you know which one 3nd3r)

Game one was terrible.(I got mana screwed) game two was closer but i was still takeing a long beating.

3nd3r
09-04-2008, 11:12 PM
3nd3r 2 - 0 NMR

amazingly close second game but at the last second i drew another copy of me kill card.

edit: hey now no giving away me deck. :P:

Neenee
09-04-2008, 11:47 PM
2-1 for GG Chrono

Niv-Mizzet_Rulez!
09-05-2008, 04:35 PM
edit: hey now no giving away me deck. :P:

Their are 707 enchantments in extended. And I could be referencing any of them. :p

Tynion
09-05-2008, 05:12 PM
I totally think he means Withering Hex.

Beebles and I are having a tough time getting together... what with my wife's birthday this weekend and his band practice... we will get it worked out though. He is my Nemesis after all. He said so himself :D

Sorry EM, you have been replaced.

Tynion
09-05-2008, 09:39 PM
Beebles 2-1. Last game went to only turn 8, I left him at 1 life.............. stupid math error for the win lol.

Seriously, those were good games.

See you in the finals Beebs.

Death_By_Beebles
09-05-2008, 11:53 PM
Beebles 2-1. Last game went to only turn 8, I left him at 1 life.............. stupid math error for the win lol.

Seriously, those were good games.

See you in the finals Beebs.

Confirmed. Waiting for the match, friend. :)

lionden_56
09-06-2008, 12:24 AM
Neo and I were supposed to play today, but he no-showed...I'm not terribly certain we'll get it in tomorrow either.

FuDaWg45
09-06-2008, 01:00 PM
Fry and I are trying, but we keep narrowly missing each other. Hopefully later today we'll be done.

FrycHiKn
09-06-2008, 02:15 PM
FuDa, are you there?

Tynion
09-06-2008, 02:23 PM
Beebs, the more and more I think about it... I can kick myself for you atacking you. It is not my style to do so. I freaked out waiting for the impending damage that could possibly be in your hand (censoring out cards for secrecy), however, if I looked at it reality, I had the game under control. You were not going to attack the next turn, because I'd block and kill your 2/2 guy, leaving only one damage coming through (reminding you that I discarded three countering spells.) The following turn I ended up drawing into the Chainers, but I also held another creature (you know which one). I only needed one more card to have lethal damage available. I think I would have had you if I didn't get shaky kneed and was patient :) I think I have the momentum going into a potential rematch. I almost can't wait.

FrycHiKn
09-06-2008, 02:33 PM
FuDaWg beats the Chicken 2 -0

Goodbye to my T4 opportunity... sob...


Bad beats... :'(

FuDaWg45
09-06-2008, 02:37 PM
FuDaWg beats the Chicken 2 -0

Goodbye to my T4 opportunity... sob...


Bad beats... :'(

Yeah, first game he got manascrewed so bad it was over before it started. Still, his deck packed some cards that could have totally wrecked me with a little more luck on his side.

NeoMagicwarrior
09-06-2008, 03:06 PM
Neo and I were supposed to play today, but he no-showed...I'm not terribly certain we'll get it in tomorrow either.

as for "no-showing" we had no official time set to play.

but, i digress. this week, school started so i had to cut down considerably on my times to play (24 credit semester), however I've checked during my breaks and couldn't run into him.

ill be on here and there all weekend and ill make it a point to leave a post somewhere every time so you can track my activity.

i sent a pm to play now a few minutes ago....but lion went idle methinks >.>

FrycHiKn
09-06-2008, 03:06 PM
Yeah, first game he got manascrewed so bad it was over before it started. Still, his deck packed some cards that could have totally wrecked me with a little more luck on his side.

I wanted to show the world that you don't need a One... Hundred... BILLION DOLLAR deck to win :E I really got screw'd...

lionden_56
09-06-2008, 03:20 PM
as for "no-showing" we had no official time set to play.

I sent you a PM saying that I'd be around from 2:30-6...and was online for basically that entire time...

Not to mention I don't know what you were checking... I checked you online status at 11:30 pm (my time) last night and it said you hadn't logged on to the forum all day...

Haggis
09-06-2008, 06:14 PM
Two match haven't been played.

Lioden vs Neo
Castle vs Elistral

They will be draws!!!
(don't complain you had time to get them in)

Haggis
09-06-2008, 06:23 PM
Round 5 Pairs
Beebs vs Thunderhog
Fudawg vs Tynion
lionden vs Tresserhorn
NeoMagicwarrior vs 3nd3r
GG Chrono vs Scion
FryChkin vs NeeNee
Elistral vs Niv-Mizzet
Castle vs Alaster

3nd3r
09-06-2008, 06:45 PM
pm sent.

Neenee
09-06-2008, 08:08 PM
sent a PM out.

Death_By_Beebles
09-06-2008, 09:20 PM
PM sent.

§cIoN
09-06-2008, 09:22 PM
PM sent.

ThunderHog
09-06-2008, 10:02 PM
Wow... I get the shot at the number 1 player. If I win, I'm pretty much a shoe-in. :D

Haggis
09-06-2008, 10:53 PM
oh btw teh dead line is 5:00pm central, wednesday

FrycHiKn
09-07-2008, 01:14 AM
NeeNee beats me 2-1

Neenee
09-07-2008, 01:17 AM
yea, 2-1

that last one just wasn't cool, though. mulligans that many times makes for a no fun game.

§cIoN
09-07-2008, 02:18 PM
2-1 Scion
Very good games,
Game 1 he slaughtered me
Game 2 I slaughtered him
Game 3 we were both in "top-deck mode" and he had the upper hand, but I drew a kill card and saved my arse.

FuDaWg45
09-07-2008, 02:30 PM
Round 5 Pairs
Beebs vs Thunderhog
Fudawg vs Tynion
lionden vs Tresserhorn
NeoMagicwarrior vs 3nd3r
GG Chrono vs Scion
FryChkin vs NeeNee
Elistral vs Niv-Mizzet
Castle vs Alaster

What does all the mumbo jumbo in the box mean? Referring to the standings attachment.

lionden_56
09-07-2008, 03:04 PM
The first column, rank, is fairly self explanatory...don't worry about the second column, that's just the order he entered us into the program in. The third column, your name...is again fairly obvious. The next column, points, is the important one. Whoever has the most points wins. You get 3 for a match win, 0 for a match loss, 1 for a draw. Everything to the right of that is tiebreakers. The first breaker is Opponent Winning percentage. Basically, how strong are your opponents. Whoever plays the tougher set of opponents gets a better ranking than people who've played weaker opponents. The second number is you game winning percentage. Someone who's won more matches 2-0 will get a better ranking than someone who wins 2-1. The one after that is rarely relevant, but its opponents match winning percentage. Same thing, but it once again refers to opponent strength. The final column is basically your record...first number is matches played, second number is matches won, matches drawn, and byes awarded..in that order.

FuDaWg45
09-07-2008, 03:17 PM
Very interesting...

So basically, me and Tynion are battling for a spot in the top 4 cut. No pressure there...

lionden_56
09-07-2008, 03:32 PM
Basically of the top 7, Beebles is in, the other six are fighting for 3 spots.

3nd3r
09-07-2008, 03:53 PM
you mean i still have a chance to t4??? 5\/\/337!!! flippin sweet man.

lionden_56
09-07-2008, 03:56 PM
Of all of the 7 pt people, you, me, and Neo...whoever wins between you and Neo will be in a breaker with me if I beat Tress...and then it comes down to breakers (which I don't know how that'll work...I'm not that good at math). If beebles beats TH I think you or NMW and myself (if I win) are in.

3nd3r
09-07-2008, 04:07 PM
so i just have to pwn neo right??? ok i have my goal and sight. now, i just have to play my game and hope a little bit.

Niv-Mizzet_Rulez!
09-07-2008, 05:00 PM
PM sent(Last night) to Elistral.

Elistral
09-07-2008, 08:43 PM
Two match haven't been played.

Lioden vs Neo
Castle vs Elistral

They will be draws!!!
(don't complain you had time to get them in)

I told castle i wouldn't be available friday or saturday, he said ok, i was on till almost midnight on thursday and he never showed. so not complaining but i told him my schedule.

Btw Disney was great :D

Tresserhorn
09-07-2008, 10:43 PM
Tress 2 Lionden 0

Good games, and I got really lucky in game 2.

lionden_56
09-08-2008, 12:17 AM
Yeah...when you need a two card combo to win and draw both of them off Careful Study... :-p

GG none the less...top 4 out the window.

Tynion
09-08-2008, 05:19 AM
Just checking in here: Fu and myself have discovered that we have a VERY small window available for us to get our games in. If nothing comes up, we should play today at 5.

Niv-Mizzet_Rulez!
09-08-2008, 07:26 PM
Me 2 - 0 Elistral

Your deck looked great, I just happen to draw my main deck answer to your deck both games.(If it wasn't for that I bet I would have lost) You put up a great fight against them. I have to say that enchantment was annoying game two(The second non enchant creatrue you played). I hope we get to play some casual games some time.

ThunderHog
09-08-2008, 07:31 PM
DBB and I are currently 1-1. My internet cut out in between games 2 and 3 and didn't come back on for the rest of the day. We're hoping to catch up the last game sometime before the deadline (obviously).

Elistral
09-08-2008, 07:50 PM
confirmed for niv 2-0 his favor (or hers not sure) and i can say the same for you, was a great deck, just that one creature in there is annoying ><, and i wouldn't mind playing some casual games sometime, and maybe after the legacy tournement there will be another extended.

Niv-Mizzet_Rulez!
09-08-2008, 08:02 PM
confirmed for niv 2-0 his favor (or hers not sure) and i can say the same for you, was a great deck, just that one creature in there is annoying ><, and i wouldn't mind playing some casual games sometime, and maybe after the legacy tournement there will be another extended.
His........

FuDaWg45
09-08-2008, 08:40 PM
Tynion and I are having troubles, he didn't show at our appointed time...

Still working on getting together.

3nd3r
09-09-2008, 10:04 PM
i hate to do this but i need a win, not a draw(again). i've sent 3 pm's 1st one right after pairings were posted. then another over the weekend while neo was on. then just an hour ago when he was on. he has not responded to even one of them. the deadline is tomorrow at 5 pm Central and i won't be able to get on before 9 pm central. so what i'm trying to do here is ask for some help. what should i do??? will i be forced to take another draw even though i tried to arrange the game??? will i have to take the draw because of him not answering me??? anyway please help.

-3nd3r

p.s. sorry for any inconvenience.

Tresserhorn
09-09-2008, 10:11 PM
PM Haggis a copy of the messages you sent Neo and hopefully something can come of this.

People who avoid playing simply because they don't want to risk the loss bother me alot. Whether or not this is happening here is not for me to judge.

Also, you have the option of tracking PMs I believe, so you could do that when sending PMs about matches. This way you know if/when it's been read.

3nd3r
09-09-2008, 10:21 PM
thanks tress.

Haggis
09-09-2008, 10:35 PM
Pm's recieved and response sent

FuDaWg45
09-09-2008, 10:37 PM
I hate to blame the guy, but I kind of feel like Tynion is avoiding the game so we get a draw (and I think if that happens we both get into top 4). He specifically told me he could play either 5am (no good), 5pm (he no-showed yesterday, and I couldn't today), or later around 9:30 pm (he no-showed yesterday and today). I know the guy has been pretty busy, so I don't know what to do about it.

It would make me feel like a total shmuck to push for a DQ, but I don't want to have a draw and then miss top 4 because of it. One final PM heading his way now, we'll try to play 5pm EST tomorrow, which should get us in right before the deadline. If not, well then I dunno.

Haggis
09-09-2008, 10:45 PM
just do as tresser sudjested to 3nd3r and i'll take it from there, he knows teh rules and the consequenses, he has posted thou saying theres a small window for you guys to get your game in.

So do what you can.

Tynion
09-10-2008, 05:18 AM
No, you can ask anyone who has played me, those are my normal times available. I also told you that in the worst case scenario... if we can't get the games in, due to tie breakers, I think we get in. I hate to be the bearer of bad news for any of you, but my son comes before a stupid game, this website, and everyone of you. I kind of feel salty because I even told you what was going on in my personal life that is preventing me from getting the game in, which was none of your business, and it gets aired like I am doing it on purpose. Alright, well, note is made in memory.

Haggis
09-10-2008, 07:33 AM
I apologize if its i that made it seem like you where trying to do it on porpuse, I just stated the already known rules and that you knew them. thou i could maybe used nicer words.

Tynion
09-10-2008, 07:55 AM
You are fine Haggis. I have nothing against you. Keep up the good work.

FuDaWg45
09-10-2008, 11:28 AM
Nah, he's aiming it at me. I'm sorry if what I said came out accusatory, but you have to admit that some of your behavior was slightly sketchy. Mentioning in PM that we both will probably get in if we draw the game, then no showing more than once. It literally takes about 30 seconds to sign on and hit me a PM saying "not tonight." That's all I needed.

I really don't believe you had such "evil" intentions, cus you did tell me about how you were busy with your personal life. Things get busy sometimes, that's fine.

So let's just let bygones be bygones, and get this game rockin tonight. :)

NeoMagicwarrior
09-10-2008, 01:19 PM
the reason i haven't been on nearly as much is cause of school...every time 3 is on...im not...and vice-versa...i cant play at night...and most of his times on are at night.

he has sent 2 msgs....1 which i diddnt get until it was too late...and 1 that said : "will you be available later for our match??? i need to take a shower and then i'll be ready if you are." so its not a "OMG IVE PM'D HIM TO DEATH |X_x|" , but its a we havnt been on at the same time.

he said he's available at 9 tonight....which is the first time he's mentioned (asside from the one i diddnt get until it was outta the time limit)...and i can do that. so, its up to haggis to call this one.

Haggis
09-10-2008, 01:32 PM
Your in luck as i am working late tonight so i will extend eth deadline to 10pm central, since you need to play at 9.

i'm thinking from now on my dead line times will be 9pm.

Tynion
09-10-2008, 05:38 PM
Fu pulls off game 3 and gets the victory, 2-1

FuDaWg45
09-10-2008, 05:42 PM
Fu pulls off game 3 and gets the victory, 2-1

Yeah, he blew me out game one though. Had me shakin in my boots for a bit there. I'd say those were pretty good games - his deck has potential for total nastyness off the right draw. Still though, couldn't stand up to the beat-face-a-tron.

Beebs, I'm coming for ya. Rematch shall go differently. :)

ThunderHog
09-10-2008, 07:18 PM
DBB and myself are desperately trying to get our third game in before the deadline. My internet has been extremely screwy over the past couple days and has made it impossible for us to finish.

If we don't get the game played in time, I'll concede game 3 to DBB and give him the 2-1 win.

Death_By_Beebles
09-10-2008, 08:58 PM
We got the game in, and I go 2-1. Game one I got annihilated, game 2 was really close, and game 3 he had some pretty shoddy draws.

Good games.

ThunderHog
09-10-2008, 09:08 PM
Confirmed. His sideboard had quite a few of the answers he needed. I got rather stomped game 3. I almost would've rather not played it. XD

NeoMagicwarrior
09-10-2008, 09:23 PM
neo 2 - 0 3N

i was just a lil too fast for him to handle

3nd3r
09-10-2008, 09:23 PM
2-0 neo

astral slide was not meant to play that.

Haggis
09-10-2008, 09:55 PM
just waiting on Castle and Alaster

§cIoN
09-10-2008, 10:18 PM
Your in luck as i am working late tonight so i will extend eth deadline to 10pm central, since you need to play at 9.

i'm thinking from now on my dead line times will be 9pm.
And we're still waiting?:eek:
This is starting to drag on for way too long.:(
Waiting a week for a round to be finished is way too long.

Haggis
09-10-2008, 10:21 PM
I know, it'll be up tonight thou, as i think Both castle and alaster are out of teh top 4 ethier way

AlasterEisaroh
09-10-2008, 10:26 PM
Just move along, if Castle wants the match so be it. But if not just call it a draw.

§cIoN
09-10-2008, 10:26 PM
I'm out of top 4 too, so results don't really mean much to me,
but I'm saying this, because one minute you say that you're gonna start sticking to the deadlines, and then you give extensions to everyone, and it just makes everything drag on. Even if I was going to the top 4, I would have lost interest in this by now.

Haggis
09-10-2008, 10:35 PM
PLay off Pairings

Beebe and Thunderhog get a rematch as Neo faces off against FuDaWg

Tynion
09-11-2008, 09:30 AM
Fu, just so you know, if we had not gotten that game in yesterday at 5, it would have never happened, as my buddy didn't leave last night until around midnight, so I would have no-showed you again.

In regards to the 30 pop-in thing, I have been telling the guys in the writers guild that for three years now, and guess what, they never do it. So maybe you were the victim of some old school payback. :P Either way... good luck in the finals. I would say I hope you get Beebs, but I don't think you have the stable draws to over power his speed. If I had to make a bold prediction (and maybe throw some negative karma at him :P) I'd say Beebs slides by undefeated and wins MDV Extended #1.

Here is my reasoning... I think he already beat the other three finalists. Having played three of the four finalists, I don't think Neo has the speed to win game 1 and his side felt very iffy at best against me, so I think they is probably the same against Beebs quickness. I think Fu might be able to win a game 1 with a good draw of discard, but I didn't feel threatened putting a Tog into play unprotected against him, so i don't think he can consistantly draw enough removal fast enough to hold Beebs at bay. I don't know what TH played, but Beebs just beat him 2-1, and I assume that they were being sportsman-like in saying the bad draws doomed him and not great side-tech on Beebs part.

There is my meta for the finals :E

FuDaWg45
09-11-2008, 10:13 AM
Yeah, I got essentially slaughtered by Beebs' speed last time around, but I'm going to side totally differently this time - I think I have a chance if I pick the correct sideboard cards.

Assuming, of course, that Neo doesn't kick my butt to the curb. :)

Tynion
09-11-2008, 01:40 PM
Now that I am out, if anyone would like some advice on meta of the format or what we saw, please feel free to ask.

Tresserhorn
09-11-2008, 02:23 PM
I'd be interested in hearing your take on our Meta

Tynion
09-11-2008, 02:52 PM
I should ask a question before openly talking... not the sharpest knife sometimes..

Most of the finalists have played each other already, and know each others decks, does anyone want me to NOT talk about your deck builds?

Also, it would be helpful to analyse the meta is we all post out decklists, minus the finalists of course.

I will lead off...

Give me a minute to launch MWS :P

NeoMagicwarrior
09-11-2008, 03:42 PM
actually ty...i haven't played ANY of the top 4...and unless you guys went blabbing what i was playing...they should have no idea....my guess is that its the same with at least one of them too.

also...as for talking about our decks:

1) you dont know what extra stuff we might have
2) if you do, it would be unfair to expose it to the rest of the top 4.

so kindly post your opinion of the meta...excluding the 4 of us

Haggis
09-11-2008, 03:54 PM
After the top 4 are done i will post all the decklists as i still have them.

Tynion
09-11-2008, 09:10 PM
Actually Neo, I have a really good idea of what you, Beebles, and Fu are playing since I played all three of you.

I would like to see the decklists of the others, and since you have issues I will refrain for the time being.

NeoMagicwarrior
09-11-2008, 09:29 PM
Actually Neo, I have a really good idea of what you, Beebles, and Fu are playing since I played all three of you.

I would like to see the deck lists of the others, and since you have issues I will refrain for the time being.


i dont really have issues...but it wouldn't be fair to expose anything, would it ? :jump:

as for any non-T4 players...go for it. and as for the "I KNOW EVERYTHING!!! IM A GOD w/ SUPERPOWERS AND CAN SEE YOUR SB/OTHER DECKS/ GF NAKED!!!!!" attitude....im almost positive you dont know everything each of us 4 have to fire at each other. The only one qualified to say that is the keeper of the decklists, Haggis.

ThunderHog
09-11-2008, 09:56 PM
If anyone guesses my deck, other than people I've already played, I'll give you my soul. Lol. (once I figure out how to remove it from myself) XD

Tresserhorn
09-12-2008, 02:30 AM
/me goes to guess TH's deck list, then remembers we played

So sad, I wanted to win a soul.

Haggis, any objection on those of us who are out posting our list? It won't change anything for the T4.

Haggis
09-12-2008, 07:44 AM
/me goes to guess TH's deck list, then remembers we played

So sad, I wanted to win a soul.

Haggis, any objection on those of us who are out posting our list? It won't change anything for the T4.

If you wanna post your deck feel free, i was going to post them all after the top 4 finish, but if you guys want got to town.

Tynion
09-12-2008, 08:17 AM
I never claimed to be a God, all I claimed to have alot of experience in metagaming. As a promoted of this league, it my responsibility to encourage ALL OF YOU to not only have fun and continue playing, but to get better at the game and tournament play.

Unlike you who seem to have a win at all cost mantality, I could care less who wins, so long as I have fun and can satisfy my competitive juices in a game.

But since you seem to think I don't know anything, I will just leave you with this knowledge... You sir are in some serious trouble, MR. 'I don't have any help in my sideboard against my worst match-up card.' You know which card I am talking about because you were exposed in our game. So before you act like you are invinsible and look down at other people, just remember the past.

That may come across as rude, and it feels that way even to me, however I will just redirect your attention to my initial post where all I wanted to do was talk about the meta and get the guys who were out back involved in the conversation.

@ TH: I am going to see if I can walk my way into your deck..

Let me re-read the pairing and results and I will take a guess :D

Ohh, TH... you made it too easy!!


TH vs Scion

2-0 TH's Win

Game 1 - I combo'd out.
Game 2 - My combo was Pithing Needled and the game ended up a complete stalemate. With my Wheel of Fates and Howling Mines I ended up milling him to death. I had 5 cards left in my deck.

Awesome games.

You too are in trouble :)

Tresserhorn
09-12-2008, 03:34 PM
// Lands
2 [ON] Polluted Delta
4 [ON] Flooded Strand
4 [RAV] Watery Grave
4 [GP] Godless Shrine
5 [US] Swamp (1)
3 [8E] Island (1)
1 [MR] Plains (3)

// Creatures
4 [CHK] Kokusho, the Evening Star
3 [CHK] Yosei, the Morning Star
2 [SC] Bladewing the Risen
4 [TO] Putrid Imp

// Spells
4 [OD] Careful Study
4 [RAV] Compulsive Research
4 [LRW] Makeshift Mannequin
3 [SOK] Footsteps of the Goryo
2 [ON] Patriarch's Bidding
3 [TSP] Ancestral Vision
4 [TSP] Dread Return

// Sideboard
4 [PLC] Damnation
4 [LRW] Thoughtseize
3 [ON] Chain of Vapor
4 [GP] Leyline of the Void

FuDaWg45
09-12-2008, 04:32 PM
Just as an update, Neo and I should be able to get together tomorrow.

That's an interesting deck, Tress. How did it hold up against graveyard hate? Were the chain of vapors enough?

Tynion
09-12-2008, 05:02 PM
Ha, I forgot to go back and post my deck :P Thanks for the reminder Tress.


// Lands
2 [ON] Bloodstained Mire
4 [ON] Polluted Delta
5 [SHM] Swamp (1)
4 [RAV] Watery Grave
3 [9E] Underground River
2 [GP] Godless Shrine

// Creatures
3 [OD] Psychatog

// Spells
4 [TO] Circular Logic
4 [7E] Counterspell
3 [7E] Duress
3 [IN] Fact or Fiction
4 [TO] Chainer's Edict
1 [TSP] Tendrils of Corruption
1 [OD] Upheaval
3 [PLC] Damnation
4 [LRW] Thoughtseize
2 [8E] Mind Sludge
2 [OD] Haunting Echoes
3 [8E] Mana Leak
3 [RAV] Compulsive Research

// Sideboard
SB: 1 [PLC] Damnation
SB: 1 [OD] Haunting Echoes
SB: 3 [7E] Engineered Plague
SB: 3 [TSB] Disenchant
SB: 4 [7E] Sacred Ground
SB: 3 [GP] Leyline of the Void

Niv-Mizzet_Rulez!
09-12-2008, 10:18 PM
My deck

Land
20x Swamp
1x Shizo, Death's Storehouse
3x Mutavault

Creature
4 x Hypnotic Specter
1x Ascendant Evincar
4x Stromgald Crusader
4x Korlash, Heir to Blackblade
3x Kokusho, the Evening Star
1x Maga, Traitor to Mortals
2x Doomed Necromancer

Spells
3x Thoughtseize
3x Bitterblossom
3x Smother
2x Damnation
3x Chainer's Edict
3x Phyrexian Arena

Sideboard
1x Kokusho, the Evening Star
1x Maga, Traitor to Mortals
1x Bitterblossom
2x Damnation
4x Extirpate
3x Slaughter Pact
3x Persecute

ThunderHog
09-12-2008, 11:07 PM
@ TH: I am going to see if I can walk my way into your deck...
Now guess the combo. XD

Also, you're right. If I play you, I would most likely lose. My combo probably won't hold up too well against control - I'd probably have to topdeck it.

lionden_56
09-12-2008, 11:47 PM
The deck that I expected to go 0-5...wound up going 2-2-1 and with a better pilot probably could have 4-0-1'ed (and without an insanely lucky Careful Study by Tress :-p)

4 [8E] City of Brass
4 [10E] Underground River
4 [10E] Adarkar Wastes
4 [ON] Grand Coliseum
4 [OD] Darkwater Catacombs
4 [OD] Shadowblood Ridge
4 [OD] Skycloud Expanse
4 [10E] Battlefield Forge
4 [10E] Caves of Koilos
4 [10E] Shivan Reef
4 [8E] Salt Marsh
4 [8E] Coastal Tower
4 [8E] Urborg Volcano
4 [ON] Bloodstained Mire
4 [ON] Flooded Strand
4 [ON] Polluted Delta
4 [RAV] Sacred Foundry
4 [RAV] Watery Grave
4 [SHM] Mountain (1)
7 [SHM] Swamp (1)
1 [SHM] Plains (1)
7 [SHM] Island (1)
1 [CHK] Meloku the Clouded Mirror
4 [PS] Flametongue Kavu
3 [9E] Battle of Wits
4 [8E] Concentrate
4 [9E] Sleight of Hand
4 [7E] Counterspell
4 [9E] Mana Leak
4 [IN] Fact or Fiction
4 [MR] Thirst for Knowledge
4 [RAV] Compulsive Research
4 [CHK] Gifts Ungiven
4 [IN] Opt
4 [10E] Wrath of God
1 [7E] Purify
4 [TO] Insidious Dreams
4 [RAV] Brainspoil
4 [RAV] Last Gasp
4 [CHK] Rend Flesh
4 [10E] Diabolic Tutor
4 [ON] Smother
4 [CHK] Night of Souls' Betrayal
4 [7E] Duress
4 Greater Auramancy
4 [AP] Vindicate
4 [IN] Absorb
4 [RAV] Clutch of the Undercity
4 [PS] Terminate
4 [MR] Talisman of Indulgence
4 [MR] Talisman of Progress
4 [MR] Chromatic Sphere
4 [MR] Chrome Mox
4 [RAV] Dimir Signet
4 [MR] Talisman of Dominance
4 [FD] Magma Jet
4 [AP] Wild Research
4 [MR] Electrostatic Bolt
4 [IN] Urza's Rage
3 [9E] Fellwar Stone
3 [AP] Fire/Ice
4 [MOR] Idyllic Tutor
3[TSP] Demonic Collusion
4 [JU] Golden Wish
1 Enduring Ideal
SB: 1 [9E] Battle of Wits
SB: 3 [7E] Purify
SB: 4 [MR] Second Sunrise
SB: 3 [IN] Dismantling Blow
SB: 3 [TSB] Disenchant
SB: 1 [CHK] Hideous Laughter

AlasterEisaroh
09-13-2008, 02:10 AM
My deck
Creatures 16
4 Simian Spirit Guide
4 Wild Cantor
4 Street Wraith
4 Skirk Prospector

Spells 44
4 Lotus Bloom
4 Seething Song
4 Rite of Flame
4 Mishra's Bauble
4 Desperate Ritual
4 Empty the Warrens
4 Plunge into Darkness
4 Cabal Ritual
4 Chrome Mox
4 Goblin Charbelcher
4 Manamorphose

First, and probably the last time I play a deck without any lands in it.

Tresserhorn
09-13-2008, 04:22 PM
Just as an update, Neo and I should be able to get together tomorrow.

That's an interesting deck, Tress. How did it hold up against graveyard hate? Were the chain of vapors enough?

It wasn't so bad, since I can also cast my threats, but Leyline of the Void is pure annoying.

Chain of Vapor was pretty good, but I think I'd rather have something mainboard to deal with Leylines, or have more threats that don't need the yard to be useful.

FrycHiKn
09-13-2008, 05:02 PM
LD... You are evil.

NeoMagicwarrior
09-13-2008, 06:53 PM
neo 1 - 2 fu


leyline of the gay FTW. otherwise...i KILLED him

FuDaWg45
09-13-2008, 06:55 PM
neo 1 - 2 fu


leyline of the gay FTW. otherwise...i KILLED him

Dredge has been hated into nonexistence. He had no answer for the leyline. He blew me out in record time game 1 though. lol

3nd3r
09-13-2008, 08:54 PM
classic R/W slide for me. too phat to post me deck. to say the least if i would have beat neo(hah i had no yard hate) i think i could have beat Fu, the only creature i drop is pro black. :D

FuDaWg45
09-13-2008, 09:09 PM
classic R/W slide for me. too phat to post me deck. to say the least if i would have beat neo(hah i had no yard hate) i think i could have beat Fu, the only creature i drop is pro black. :D

Eh, I'll just rip it out of your hand and extirpate it then. :)

You're playing slide without Eternal Dragon?

3nd3r
09-13-2008, 09:38 PM
i'm playing the E-dragon but i don't drop it, waste of resources. too big of a target for too little gain. you can run 4 of those(can't spell the stupid thing's name), but you wouldn't be able to hit all my kill conditions. trust me NMR tried that and i laughed at him. :p

Death_By_Beebles
09-14-2008, 03:44 PM
Thunderhog and I finished our match this afternoon, and I won, 2-0.

FuDaWg45 vs Beebz for the final match!

Death_By_Beebles
09-14-2008, 08:27 PM
FuDaWg45 and I got the game done this evening, and I've beat him, 2-1. The third game was sooooooo close it's not even funny.

Definitely an "OMG, IT'S LIGHTNING HELIX!!!" kind of moment. :)

EDIT:

My decklist.


// Lands
1 Sacred Foundry
1 Overgrown Tomb
1 Temple Garden
1 Stomping Ground
1 Steam Vents
4 Windswept Heath
4 Bloodstained Mire
1 Blood Crypt
1 Mountain
1 Watery Grave
4 Wooded Foothills

// Creatures
4 Grim Lavamancer
4 Kird Ape
4 Dark Confidant
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Mogg Fanatic
2 Isamaru, Hound of Konda
3 Gaddock Teeg

// Spells
3 Gaea's Might
4 Lightning Helix
4 Tribal Flames
4 Vindicate

// Sideboard
1 Gaddock Teeg
4 Smother
2 Ronom Unicorn
1 Kami of Ancient Law
3 Ancient Grudge
4 Burrenton Forge-Tender

FuDaWg45
09-14-2008, 08:28 PM
Sooooooooooo close. Got him game 1, he beat me game 2, and he got 2 Lightning Helices in a row game 3. Had him down to 2 though. :)

DBB wins 2-1

My deck:


Lands
6 fetchlands
3 Treetop Village
12 mana producers

Creatures
3 Doran, the Siege Tower
4 Birds of Paradise
4 Tarmogoyf
3 Loxodon Hierarch
4 Dark Confidant
2 Eternal Witness

Spells
4 Vindicate
2 Profane Command
3 Thoughtseize
2 Smother
2 Umezawa's Jitte
2 Chrome Mox
4 Cabal Therapy

Sideboard
2 Pernicious Deed
1 Krosan Grip
4 Leyline of the Void
2 kataki, War's Wage
2 Indrik Stomphowler
2 Gaddock Teeg
2 Extirpate

Haggis
09-15-2008, 07:13 AM
Congrats DDB!!

Tresserhorn
09-15-2008, 08:08 AM
Congratz BBD! so how many is that for you now?? 3?

Niv-Mizzet_Rulez!
09-16-2008, 08:31 PM
Congrats DBB,


i'm playing the E-dragon but i don't drop it, waste of resources. too big of a target for too little gain. you can run 4 of those(can't spell the stupid thing's name), but you wouldn't be able to hit all my kill conditions. trust me NMR tried that and i laughed at him. :p
*Shakes fist.* Stupid black not having enchantment removal. *Stabs 3nd3r in the face, and flees the country to hide in Mexico till the heat dies down.*

ThunderHog
09-19-2008, 08:38 PM
Since I've been creating so much hype with my deck, I figured I would spare everyone anymore anxiousness and show my deck...

Lands
4x Sacred Foundry
4x Wooded Foothills
4x Battlefield Forge
2x Plains
6x Mountain

Creatures
4x Greater Gargadon
4x AEther Membrane
4x AEtherflame Wall
4x Angelic Wall

Spells
4x Balancing Act
4x Howling Mine
4x Lightning Helix
2x Char
4x Shock
4x Incinerate
2x Wheel of Fate

Sideboard
3x Defense Grid
4x Disenchant
4x Guttural Response
4x Dawn Charm

Combo = Suspended Gargadon, Float 4 mana, sac all (or as many as I can/should) of my permanents to the 'Don, and then play Balancing Act.

In the end, I have a 9/7 hasty beastie and you have... Well, nothing. Nothing but a black eye!!! :evillaugh:

Out of all the people I faced, DBB was really the only one who had his way with me. FuDaWg got me too, but I blame bad draws for that one. Even when I had decent/good draws, DBB was the only one who really stopped me.

Tresserhorn
09-20-2008, 05:40 AM
That's because I couldn't draw threats and made bad bad decissions :-p

Tynion
09-22-2008, 12:33 PM
I think I was the only one who played Counterspells, so you would have had issues with me :D

Besides, I don't think you could have dealth with a Tog attacking, you'd most likely need to sacrifice all your stuff to get a gargadon in play just to block him (I ran Damnation, Chainers' Edict, and Tendrils as creature removal)

EDIT:

I was thinking about the meta, and what we learned, but then I think that we will have an issue with Extended Rotating before the next Extended Tournament. What I will say is that the key was definately the graveyard. Whether your were dabbling in it or attacking it. We had atleast one dredge deck make the finals, I was playing Tog, and I know two guys who played me directly attacked my graveyard, trying to render my Tog and Circular Logic ineffective. My main form of attack was Haunting Echoes. I'd let your blow your steam, countering what was harmful and Damnationing the other guys away, and then Echoes your library free of harm. So one thing I notice is that Attacking the graveyard is almost a must. Dredge makes so much sense with Life from the Loam, Bridge from Below, and the Swan / Black land combo. You pretty much need to be able to kill a graveyard, or at least pinpoint cards from the game.

Further on that point, killing a creature is almost pointess in this era. You must remove it from the game, or put it on the bottom of the library. Cards like the three white ones come to mind as stepping stones:

Crib Swap
Unmake
Condemn

This cards are great at keeping you in the game long term. Factor in Oblivion Ring and White really looks strong in the upcoming extended. Not to mention that we know that a lot of favorites will be returning in the new meta. Demigod of Revenge, Tarmogoyf,Eternal Witness and some of the new breed of noticeable from Standard: Reveliark, Greater Gargadon, etc.

I would not be the least bit surprised to see people running an extended version of Kithkin, as there are a lot of added things that extended has to offer.

Just a few random thoughts.

Stepping back from environment scheme of things and coming locally, pretty much for the entertainment factor, has anyone noticed a trend in certain players tastes for deck styles and arch-types? We have had plenty of games and matches take place to start to see tendancies of players. This is another thing you can use to help improve your game. If you can figure out who you think will be playing in the tournament, and then take a tally of what you believe you will see the most of, you can gear your game against that and do well going against the meta instead of going against the players. For example, instead of knowing that Kithkin and Merfok will be heavy, I can look and see that 5 out of eight players are going to be playing aggro, then I know that life gain and board sweepers will serve me well, and perhaps I go that route instead of trying to defend primarily against two decks and leaving myself vulnerable against everything else.