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Death_By_Beebles
05-20-2007, 09:30 AM
Well, my university is out for summer break. Sorry for the rest of you who are still learning it up :(

Congratulations to Zhou_tai, a brand-new MDV player for winning round #6!

Some updates you will be interested in:

1) Force of Will is banned. Mogg and I have been talking about this all week, and looking at this week's deckbuilds, its easy to see that decks are metagaming around one card - Force of Will. The card is degenerate, so we're banning it.

2)Mishra's Workshop is being placed on the watch list. This may come as a shocker to everyone, but Workshop decks have always done extremely well. I'm going to be watching to make sure that they aren't doing too well.

I was in a slight hurry when I calculated PoTM points this morning. Check your score to make sure it is right.

If you have any questions about 3CB that this thread can not answer, please check out these (http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=5310) three (http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=5700) articles (http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=7544), written by GoblinBoy back in the 3CB hayday.

I've also written two primers on 3CB lands, which you can find here (http://www.magicdeckvortex.com/mdvarticle0212.htm) and here. (http://www.magicdeckvortex.com/mdvarticle0232.htm)

My first 3CB metagaming article can be found here. (http://www.magicdeckvortex.com/mdvarticle0240.htm)

Good luck everyone!


--------------Submission Deadline--------------


Please, PM your decks to Death_By_Beebles at either MDV or MTGS. The deadline for submission is 12AM EST May 27th, 2007.


--------------Rules and Submission Guidelines--------------

Your deck is composed of 3 cards which all start in your hand.
Your library contains 0 cards and you don’t have a sideboard (Wishes fetch nothing).
Random effects always go in your opponent's favor.
You can see your opponent's hand, so you make the best possible play.
You don't lose as a result of not being able to draw a card.
You play each opponent twice; once going first and once going second.
For each win, you score 3 points.
For each draw, you score 1 point.
For each loss, you score 0 points.

Three rules restrict the kind of deck you can send. They are:
1.You may not submit a deck that can win before the opponent's first main phase.
2.You may not submit a deck that can force an opponent to lose more than one card from his hand per turn.
3. You may not submit a deck that uses a card on the 3CB banned list.

Other than the aforementioned, everything is handled exactly like a real game of Magic.

If you want to play, PM me a message with a heading similar to " 3CB Round #X", where X is the current round number. The format for the message should be:

Deck Name

Card #1
Card #2
Card #3


--------------Current Banned List--------------

All Ante cards
All Promo cards not available on Gatherer/Autocard
All Unglued and Unhinged cards (excluding basic land)


Wasteland
Ghost Quarter
Strip Mine
Glacial Chasm

Blackmail
Brain Pry
Coercion
Pulse of the Dross
Force of Will
Cabal Therapy
Abandon Hope
Show and Tell
Misguided Rage
The Rack

Form of the Dragon
Balance
Restore Balance
Barren Glory

Mesmeric Fiend
Nezumi Shortfang
Voidstone Gargoyle
Meddling Mage
Leonin Squire




--------------Current Watched List--------------

Magus of the Moon
Dryad Arbor
Mishra's Workshop


--------------POTM (Points of the Month)--------------

01) Chimpanzee - 213 pts
02) Death_By_Beebles - 194 pts
02) SorryGuy - 178 pts
04) Wrath_of_DoG - 169 pts
05) SumPhatGuy - 149 pts
06) Niv-Mizzet_Rulez! - 142 pts
07) Mogg - 136 pts
08) WhammWhamme - 134 pts
09) SenorClown - 133 pts
10) FuDaWg45- 130 pts
11) magicianofthought- 128 pts
12) krizzlybear - 126 pts
12) silasw - 126 pts
14) Zhou_tai - 115 pts
15) Shadowlord - 114 pts
16) Halinn - 110 pts
16) The_Mad_Tapper - 110 pts
18) Tlaon - 105 pts
19) shteev - 96 pts
20) death_by_aggro - 94 pts
21) Zack_Wilder - 76 pts
22) bateleur - 72 pts
22) Feyd_Ruin- 72 pts
24) Streetz - 71 pts
25) Mr Rymico - 69 pts
26) Fayul - 58 pts
27) Tynion- 53 pts
28) Unstable - 47 pts
29) Friend Mairsil - 45 pts
30) Dusk_- 39 pts
31) Username - 34 pts
32) Captain Jack Sparrow - 0 pts



--------------Winner List--------------

FuDaWg45 - Round #1 (http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=71004)
FuDaWg45 - Round #2 (http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=72027)
magicianofthought - Round #3 (http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=73151)
Feyd_Ruin - Round #4 (http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=74585)
Chimpanzee - Round #5 (http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=75577)
Zhou_tai - Round #6 (http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=76588)

Niv-Mizzet_Rulez!
05-20-2007, 10:03 AM
Wow for points of the month i'm in 6th. I didn't expect to be that high. I though i would be in the low teen the way i normally do. I'll play again.

Mogg
05-20-2007, 10:32 AM
Just a quick note on POTM: There are some scores that I still need to fix because of points raised by the players over at mtgs. As a side note to DBB, I IM'd you a change from last week's score. I don't remember offhand whose scores it was, but someone went up 3 points and another player went down 3 points. Did you include that change?

shteev
05-20-2007, 07:55 PM
Any reason Dryad Arbor is still on the watch list?

<edit>

Plus, I didn't really notice decks metagaming against Force Of Will (and only Force Of Will).... out of interest, what kind of stuff are you talking about?

Zhou_tai
05-20-2007, 08:01 PM
I didnt see my name on the PoTM.

Friend Mairsil
05-21-2007, 12:40 AM
im in

Ryuzaki
05-21-2007, 01:50 AM
I might be in, if the submission date comes, more then likely cjs..well wait i have a few I already made..

Whooo 0 points...can i just get kicked in the kneecaps instead? XD

Dang you rules! and graft...simic betrayed teh cjs...:(

Death_By_Beebles
05-21-2007, 08:41 AM
Just a quick note on POTM: There are some scores that I still need to fix because of points raised by the players over at mtgs. As a side note to DBB, I IM'd you a change from last week's score. I don't remember offhand whose scores it was, but someone went up 3 points and another player went down 3 points. Did you include that change?

I did make that change. I'll take a look a the MTGS forums later today for points changes.



Any reason Dryad Arbor is still on the watch list?

<edit>

Plus, I didn't really notice decks metagaming against Force Of Will (and only Force Of Will).... out of interest, what kind of stuff are you talking about?

Dryad Arbor is still on the watch list because it allows you to make 4 mana and have two threats. Granted, it's a turn slower than Leonin Squire, but it has the same effect.

The decks with all lands, for example, are metagamed purely to beat FoW. There's been a shift in deck building from pre FS to post FS, and with FoW playable due to Dryad Arbor, the metagame has been warped. Black Lotus' numbers were down, and other counter decks were on the rise.


I didnt see my name on the PoTM.

Holy cow! Sorry about that, I'll have that fixed right away.

Zhou_tai
05-21-2007, 09:43 PM
thank you. and im in for the new 3cb

SenorClown
05-26-2007, 12:13 AM
Someone on MTGS suggested Fork Week, which I definitely second as a good idea for next/an upcoming round.

I also happen to love Trinisphere-Upwelling(-Sacred Ground).

Death_By_Beebles
05-29-2007, 07:42 AM
Hey everyone, bad news.

It's going to take me at least another two days to get results done. There's been a death in the family, so I'll be gone until late Wednesday, and I don't know if I'll have time on Wednesday to finish everything up. Sorry about the delay.

Niv-Mizzet_Rulez!
05-29-2007, 04:13 PM
Thats okay. Take as much time as you need DBB.

Zhou_tai
05-31-2007, 04:56 AM
sorry to hear about that. and np the forum can wait.

Death_By_Beebles
06-04-2007, 09:11 AM
Oh my God. Scores are finally up.

Congrats to myself, for winning 3CB #7! :p :o

#1 - The_Mad_Tapper
No Name
Ekundu Griffin
Griffin Canyon
Black Lotus

#2 - Tlaon
Hoping for Magi
Anurid Scavenger
Wipe Away
Black Lotus

#3 - WhammWhamme
Enchantments of the World, kick my ass
The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
Icatian Stores
Kataki, War's Wage

#4 - Chimpanzee
The Rak
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Rakdos, the Defiler

#5 - Dusk_
Wasteland 2.0
Dust Bowl
Black Lotus
Dryad Arbor

#6 - SALAd
Ix-nay
Dryad Arbor
Lotus Petal
Nix

#7 - King Canute
No Name
Sand Silos
Avatar of Will
Piracy Charm

#8 - SumPhatGuy
PlatinumBlondesHaveAllTheFun.dec
Black Lotus
Hypergenesis
Platinum Angel

#9 - Wrath_of_DoG
I come bearing RAWR
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Rakdos, the Defiler

#10 - Gimp In A Tree
No Name
Dryad Arbor
Magus of the Vineyard
Elvish Spirit Guide

#11 - silasw
Everyone else likes it.dec
Leyline of Singularity
Karakas
Isamaru, Hound of Konda

#12 - bertrand
Aargh, ballons!
Maze of Ith
Saprazzan Cove
Chronozoa

#13 - Shadowlord
2CB Much?.dec
Black Lotus
Magus of the Moon
Glowrider

#14 - magicianofthought
worse than something
Vine Dryad
Pyrokinesis
Cromat

#15 - Username
Remember, Best Plays Possible
Black Lotus
Channel
Snake Basket

#16 - SorryGuy
Clueless
Mishra's Workshop
Wheel of Torture
Steel Golem

#17 - MrCowFart
Dryad 2.0
Dryad Arbor
Pact of Negation
Disrupting Shoal

#18 - krizzlybear
Anime North made me miss the due date AKA Magus take 3
Magus of the Moon
Black Lotus
Chalice of the Void

#19 - Zhou_tai
No Name
Black Lotus
City of Traitors
Blinding Angel

#20 - SenorClown
Born to be Wild
Black Lotus
Sheltered Valley
Lavaborn Muse

#21 - Halinn
No Name
Mox Sapphire
Rishadan Port
Imaginary Pet

#22 - Niv-Mizzet_Rulez!
Mechanical Rampage
Steel Golem
Trinisphere
Mishra's Workshop

#23 - Death_By_Beebles
UnoriginalBastard.dec
Treetop Village
The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
Eladamri's Vineyard

X| 1 2 3 4| 5 6 7 8| 9 0 1 2| 3 4 5 6| 7 8 9 0| 1 2 3 Total | % Win
1| X 0 6 0| 6 3 0 0| 0 6 0 0| 6 6 0 0| 0 2 2 0| 0 0 0 38 | 28.78 %
2| 6 X 0 4| 6 3 6 6| 4 6 0 2| 0 2 0 0| 0 0 6 6| 0 0 0 57 | 43.18 %
3| 0 6 X 6| 2 6 0 6| 6 6 0 2| 0 2 6 6| 6 0 0 0| 0 6 0 66 | 50.00 %
4| 6 1 0 X| 6 3 6 6| 2 6 0 0| 3 6 6 6| 0 3 6 6| 6 3 0 81 | 61.36 %
5| 0 0 2 0| X 4 6 0| 0 0 0 2| 0 1 0 0| 2 0 0 0| 0 0 2 19 | 14.39 %
6| 3 3 0 3| 1 X 0 6| 3 0 0 0| 3 3 0 0| 2 3 3 1| 3 0 0 37 | 28.03 %
7| 6 0 6 0| 0 6 X 6| 0 6 0 2| 0 6 0 0| 6 0 6 0| 0 0 0 50 | 37.88 %
8| 6 0 0 0| 6 0 0 X| 0 6 0 2| 0 2 0 6| 0 3 6 6| 6 0 0 49 | 37.12 %
9| 6 1 0 2| 6 3 6 6| X 6 0 0| 3 6 6 6| 0 3 6 6| 6 3 0 81 | 61.36 %
0| 0 0 0 0| 6 6 0 0| 0 X 0 0| 0 2 0 0| 6 0 0 0| 0 0 0 20 | 15.15 %
1| 6 6 6 6| 6 6 6 6| 6 6 X 2| 1 2 0 0| 6 2 6 6| 6 3 0 94 | 71.97 %
2| 6 2 2 6| 2 6 2 2| 6 6 2 X| 0 2 0 0| 6 0 6 0| 0 6 0 62 | 46.97 %
3| 6 6 6 3| 6 3 6 6| 3 6 4 6| X 2 3 3| 0 3 3 0| 0 3 6 86 | 63.64 %
4| 0 2 2 0| 4 3 0 2| 0 2 2 2| 2 X 0 0| 2 2 2 2| 2 0 0 31 | 23.48 %
5| 6 6 0 0| 6 6 6 6| 0 6 6 6| 3 6 X 0| 0 3 0 0| 6 3 0 75 | 56.82 %
6| 6 6 0 0| 6 6 6 0| 0 6 6 6| 3 6 6 X| 6 3 6 0| 0 6 0 84 | 65.91 %
7| 6 6 0 6| 2 2 0 6| 6 0 0 0| 6 2 6 0| X 6 6 2| 6 0 0 70 | 54.54 %
8| 3 6 6 3| 6 3 6 3| 3 6 2 6| 3 2 3 3| 0 X 3 3| 3 3 6 82 | 59.85 %
9| 2 0 6 0| 6 3 0 0| 0 6 0 0| 3 2 6 0| 0 3 X 0| 6 3 0 46 | 34.84 %
0| 6 0 6 0| 6 4 6 0| 0 6 0 6| 6 2 6 6| 2 3 6 X| 6 3 6 86 | 61.36 %
1| 6 6 6 0| 6 3 6 0| 0 6 0 6| 6 2 0 6| 0 3 0 0| X 3 6 71 | 51.52 %
2| 6 6 0 3| 6 6 6 6| 3 6 3 0| 3 6 3 0| 6 3 3 3| 3 X 2 83 | 62.88 %
3| 6 6 6 6| 2 6 6 6| 6 6 6 6| 0 6 6 6| 6 0 6 0| 0 2 X 100 | 75.76 %

#01 - (23) Death_By_Beebles- 100 pts
#02 - (11) silasw - 94 pts
#03 - (20) SenorClown - 86 pts
#03 - (13) Shadowlord - 86 pts
#05 - (16) SorryGuy - 84 pts
#06 - (22) Niv-Mizzet_Rulez! - 83 pts
#07 - (18) krizzlybear - 82 pts
#08 - (04) Chimpanzee - 81 pts
#08 - (09) Wrath_of_DoG - 81 pts
#10 - (15) Username - 75 pts
#11 - (21) Halinn - 71 pts
#12 - (17) MrCowFart - 70 pts
#13 - (03) WhammWhamme - 66 pts
#14 - (12) bertrand - 62 pts
#15 - (02) Tlaon - 57 pts
#16 - (07) King Canute - 50 pts
#17 - (08) SumPhatGuy - 49 pts
#18 - (19) Zhou-tai - 46 pts
#19 - (01) The_Mad_Tapper - 38 pts
#20 - (06) SALAd - 37 pts
#21 - (14) magicianofthought - 31 pts
#22 - (10) GimpInATree - 20 pts
#23 - (05) Dusk_ - 19 pts


Please please please check your scores. I may have made mistakes as per usual.

EDIT: Win % is off since I'm too lazy to run the percents over with changed scores :p

Mogg
06-04-2007, 03:01 PM
I guess the lesson from this round is: don't try to force Dryad Arbor.

SenorClown
06-04-2007, 04:47 PM
Me (20) vs. #13 (Lotus, Magus, Glowrider)
Current: 3-3
Should be: 6-0

My deck was designed to 6-0 this matchup. When he's on the play, if he drops Glowrider, I use Valley to play Lotus and use that to play Muse. If he drops Magus, I just drop Muse unfettered.

vs. #17 (Dryad, Pact, Shoal)
Current: 0-6
Should be: 2-2

Valley saves me from death yet again.

I also decided to check everyone ahead of me after that, heh...

#18 krizzlybear (Lotus, Magus, Chalice) vs. #16 SorryGuy (Workshop, Steel, Wheel)
Current: 0-6
Should be: 3-3

I assume this was an oversight.

#1 The_Mad_Tapper (Lotus, Canyon, Griffin) vs. #13 Shadowlord (Lotus, Magus, Glowrider)
Current: 2-2
Should be: 4-1

When TMT is on the play, he can drop Griffin and outrace Shadowlord no matter what he does.

#11 silasw (Leyline, Karakas, Isamaru) vs. #13 Shadowlord (Lotus, Magus, Glowrider)
Current: 2-2
Should be: 1-4

When Shadowlord is on the play, he can drop Magus first and silasw can't do anything about it.

#13 Shadowlord (Lotus, Magus, Glowrider) vs. #21 Halinn (Sapphire, Port, Pet)
Current: 3-3
Should be: 0-6

Shadowlord can't stop the Pet...Magus doesn't do anything, and Glowrider is circumvented by playing the Sapphire with the Port.

Niv-Mizzet_Rulez!
06-04-2007, 06:15 PM
5th place. I guess playing un original decks wins.

death by aggro
06-07-2007, 01:55 PM
Soooooo, when's the next?:D I hope to get in on some more 3CB action.